Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj05.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.141]) by air-me03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME032-8ba94da488e13e2; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:16:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B8B1A3800013E; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q9hAg-0004fX-NB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:14:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q9hAf-0004fN-N9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:14:33 +0100 Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9hAc-0000kd-1v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:14:33 +0100 Received: from pd3ml3so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.149]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Apr 2011 11:14:21 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=uT3SUsFrUxSLMLkvWEyF5PJ45gYvcyNzEdQWRoVmi+I= c=1 sm=1 a=sV5SnmMMxRkA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=j0nf1SoGX0kASvv5Unis3A==:17 a=_Dj-zB-qAAAA:8 a=7a5s9kqEZ_LLl2f-11gA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO MaynePC) ([24.108.39.108]) by pd3ml3so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with SMTP; 12 Apr 2011 11:14:21 -0600 Message-ID: From: To: References: <4DA492C9.4329.AAE777@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4DA492C9.4329.AAE777@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:14:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: Re: Insulating tape / Decca repair Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d0a4da488d6113e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Mike - 3M / Scotch makes a woven fiberglass-cloth tape (#27 ?) that Scott and I have used on previous output transformers...it's not cheap but is perfect for this purpose. Steve / VE7SL > Further to my report on the failed combiner/output transformer in my > Decca QRO Tx, I have dismantled the transformer. The really good news > is that the huge (85mm dia) ferrite pot was not glued at all, and was > easily unclamped. The internal wires were more difficult, being > wrapped with cloth tape that seems to have been soaked in hard glue. > > I finally got to the secondary coil and found the shorted turn. That > coil comprises three layers wound on top of each other, but the cloth > wrapping was inadequate in one place, resulting in one turn from the > top layer being adjacent to one on the bottom layer, and thus > providing a higher voltage gradient than intended and shorting > several turns. > > So all I have to do is to improve the construction (to avoid the > voltage gradient) and re-assemble. I will wrap some sleeving over the > slightly charred wires where the short occurred. > > I need some advice on what to use to replace the glue-soaked cloth > tape. It needs to fix the turns and provide a high degree of > insulation. I could use ordinary plastic tape but it may suffer from > possible high temperatures (It is physically difficult to check > whether the transformer gets hot whilst transmitting for long > periods, but it's certainly likely). > > I have looked at the Maplin catalogue and they do "Silicone Self > Fusing Repair Tape" which seems to resist high temperatures (up to > 260 deg C) and high voltages (it actually says "7,000 volts/20mil > (0.51mm) dielectric strength", which I don't really understand). > > Should I replace the wire, or perhaps just its insulation? It is > solid, enamelled and insulated with some brown cloth or paper > (similar to the glue-soaked cloth) and is in good condition away from > the fault. Outside diameter is 2mm. > > Any suggestions or advice would be gratefully received. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook": http://members.shaw.ca/ve7sl