Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dk02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.180.6]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA021-85e44d9e0012238; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:18:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DE50E38000222; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q7tlx-0005Yv-7z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:17:37 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q7tlw-0005Yl-OC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:17:36 +0100 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7tlu-0005hZ-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:17:36 +0100 Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so3305827wwk.28 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kjHUZD2DKJLSAGf0vzcKdwYFELE7sHxvmUh7Vxt38mk=; b=FVe366k02+MebASZRC6gof3RLtjZwYeH8VsodfnJrChITiVFrjbJUAlTz40jvZi5Yx vcP7CQq7TTwFpygWEi2ceXlfZW6bPOF96QGXDlIDNvuX1Gt5mr88TWtj7Mb1gzj9uHG0 RHXmS7GrhRfq3mPLvMk8LBZjhgAeXHlvx/NJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XbweLZxSSoJyQOMxMXzQVud9fsvHqszPwEiLVrJ9aq8167GYefDSyGU4kuQchw4MWk 2huzQZJ5EttIfAZPb/fKRRFmkHLaOlrriOnakFDBdpSApbz0VmwMKm1Ke+XkxSRQNixb cVWeJDqfS+pKxw5UuFCf/xke9qULtpB7EcTbw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.182.135 with SMTP id cc7mr1286144wbb.91.1302200248282; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.37.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D9DF55E.90407@freenet.de> References: <4D9DF55E.90407@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF QRM puzzle - why not the same in a split screen on SL? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c0d741039affa04a0581fe5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d233.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4064d9e000d7881 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00248c0d741039affa04a0581fe5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks to everyone (Wolf, Eddie, Marcus etc) for replying to my question. Eddie, yes I have seen the trace and how quickly going HF a few Hz the interfering signals disappear. I was just a bit afraid that for some reason the top window was less sensitive, but this seems unlikely to be the case. 73s Roger G3XBM On 7 April 2011 18:33, wolf_dl4yhf wrote: > Hi Roger, > > Guess the burst originates from a periodic signal (maybe something rich in > harmonics), and one of the harmonics is closer to one of the frequency > ranges than the other. Or.. the two bands are fed from two different sources > - one before, and the other after the noise blanker, or clipper ? You can > quickly check that in the 'circuit' window. But if you say it's just the > split screen mode, then the two frequency ranges are indeed fed from the > same FFT. > > All the best, > Wolf . > > > Am 07.04.2011 18:09, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > > Help... >> >> After lunch today my wife turned on the washing machine and the tumble >> drier and for two periods there was a burst of interference visible on the >> lower split screen as vertical noise stripes. What I don't understand is why >> I don't see these also on the upper trace around 8.976kHz too when the >> settings are the same. I have a SL filter selected but it is centred around >> 8.970kHz with 400Hz width and slopes so this cannot explain this. Surely the >> noise bursts should appear in both parts of the screen? >> >> Can someone who understands Spectrum Lab explain this please? >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> > > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --00248c0d741039affa04a0581fe5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everyone (Wolf, Eddie, Marcus etc) for replying to my question.=

Eddie, yes I have seen the trace and how quickly going HF a few= Hz the interfering signals disappear. I was just a bit afraid that for so= me reason the top window was less sensitive, but this seems unlikely to be= the case.

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 7 April 2011= 18:33, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:
Hi Roger,

Guess the burst originates from a periodic signal (maybe something rich in= harmonics), and one of the harmonics is closer to one of the frequency ra= nges than the other. Or.. the two bands are fed from two different sources= - one before, and the other after the noise blanker, or clipper ? You can= quickly check that in the 'circuit' window. But if you say it'= ;s just the split screen mode, then the two frequency ranges are indeed fe= d from the same FFT.

All the best,
=A0Wolf .


Am 07.04.2011 18:09, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:

Help...

After lunch today my wife turned on the washing machine and the tumble dri= er and for two periods there was a burst of interference visible on the lo= wer split screen as vertical noise stripes. What I don't understand is= why I don't see these also on the upper trace around 8.976kHz too whe= n the settings are the same. =A0I have a SL filter selected but it is cent= red around 8.970kHz with 400Hz width and slopes so this cannot explain thi= s. Surely the noise bursts should appear in both parts of the screen?

Can someone who understands Spectrum Lab explain this please?

73s
Roger G3XBM





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