Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.203]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-863e4da75cf81a4; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:45:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 694FD3800008A; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QATPC-0007FV-EX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:44:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QATPC-0007FM-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:44:46 +0100 Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com ([74.125.82.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QATP9-0000MR-Qi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:44:46 +0100 Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so2576675wyb.16 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qhwZFB0VBpVXMwcGPo40xb3FaTQ42WL3pkOGqsONS3k=; b=RIEwgesW2EDRp0OIdTWe9vrdjiX6Znxpqdh5Ir+MhHWYH7LqI1toy+N0O1qF/dVk9w VJ9iRddYffNFfq/nhVtWWw80AbaZxdL+WsXNZ/pc26wrbZBcYzj3UdAfNEy9BUtBjren i7D+CI2k2pklmTeIaXl5T53OgWo4UNkQlqVxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NPs7W6wIrdaQHTw1/s7MkG9SAxut1aqMBq0843WQ7ERyONQ0vyZMArQKFjsuFok7+i cSWzDiGR4yliyXla4YrcUJvkUzCdHneUoL5QT+XXXMWa71HljIRIU3cahCGatOBVzalE 1PArUhkIU6I2S69E7Lr9NOPFXoygPapvKDtD4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.142.133 with SMTP id i5mr1259253wej.43.1302813877788; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.50.79 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:44:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: HB9ASB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_00_10=0.642,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64c2864e37d04a0e6fefe X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d302.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb4da75cf60610 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0016e6d64c2864e37d04a0e6fefe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear VLF&LF friends The experiments on the dreamers band are interesting, no doubt about it. But why we go lower and lower? Finally we will arrive at DC - the last frontier! May be there is a whole spectrum of negative frequencies below DC :-) There is a frequency in the VLF spectrum which is used only for a couple of hours and only to send messages to radio amateurs and SWL's. It's SAQ's 17.2 kHz. May be we could get this frequency for all amateurs, if we talk to our regulators? 17.2 kHz is in a VLF range where propagation is at optimum and therefore very promising. And of course we would respect a silence time during the transmission of Grimeton 73 de Toni, HB9ASB --0016e6d64c2864e37d04a0e6fefe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear VLF&LF friends
The experiments on the dreamers band are intere= sting, no doubt about it. But why we go lower and lower? Finally we will= arrive at DC -=A0 the last frontier! May be there is a whole spectrum of= negative frequencies below DC :-)

There is a frequency in the VLF spectrum which is used only for a coup= le of hours and only to send messages to radio amateurs and SWL's. It&= #39;s SAQ's 17.2 kHz.
May be we could get this frequency for all am= ateurs, if we talk to our regulators?
17.2 kHz is in a VLF range where propagation is at optimum and therefore= very promising. And of course we would respect a silence time during the= transmission of Grimeton
73 de Toni, HB9ASB
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