Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.216]) by air-md08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD083-8b924d9e03ff3d1; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:35:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DD022380001C2; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q7u1v-0005iO-PM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:34:07 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q7u1v-0005iF-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:34:07 +0100 Received: from mail-yi0-f43.google.com ([209.85.218.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7u1s-0005ya-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:34:07 +0100 Received: by yie16 with SMTP id 16so1408183yie.16 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:33:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=accLfiNu9T2kT64h/u7LXoelUk6DxKbBT84Cfg3FMw8=; b=cdmPG4GHYCytdEb3H66AgTB/6/6N77mKW5Ts1eMDVOXUMaNLAOH8qlTsHpbhntzzml 7P8V72qd9vg4pp6QaJrNNN6nOZa13zBuUpvE1uevHrjXEYrOSiS9xrQlNMQl+Kxy5CzA R8+Jivmc+Mw7UM2/RfnI7oXOPiHYOVlq+sQdA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sxTXSoRdJ9lOoybpku7FSe4AA0+8PFELnS4fGCKWZGQwiNXWuxS9zpn0BAE2/CpjiH Fp5b3+dLwyFqgPM3DScpdvrH5gK3O3tnM2NupPdA74q6BpJITalZoK6tjJF+HWjRfac9 u3q5sIW3t6CLCR5sVvru50OF2wqbq9JkMHQwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.129.27 with SMTP id g27mr841598ann.51.1302201237968; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.105.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:33:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <280367.18791.qm@web28514.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <007c01cbf54d$2c728260$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:33:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0eR38K1MSvvc6U_hhAsksZLtSJo Message-ID: From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Signal (or interferer?) overnight 8.976665kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92ba237192f04a0585aa6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m008.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d84d9e03fb6a94 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c92ba237192f04a0585aa6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Roger, Mal, LF, I think a typo crept in there, Chris usually is on *8.976 661 6 kHz.* * * 73, Gary - G4WGT. * * On 7 April 2011 19:14, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Hi Mal > > Nothing seen from Ossi here today. So far I have only seen his signal once > (16/3/11) and that was very weakly on my loop which is oriented in the least > optimal direction for him. If he was keying the carrier today it's unlikely > I'd have seen him in a 424uHz window. You are getting a better signal than I > am. A properly resonated antenna at your end will give you even better > results, so good luck. > > Are you looking for G3XIZ this evening? 8.966616kHz constant carrier I > think. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > On 7 April 2011 18:56, mal hamilton wrote: > >> Roger OM >> How did you copy OSSY today, he was producing a strong trace, keying the >> carrier. I was using the dfcw 600 window and probably could have copied him >> at a faster speed of 120, a QSO might have been possible. >> Using a 600m 1/4 wave inv L direct to the sound card and hope to improve >> reception soon by using the 137 khz inv L system and resonating it for 9 >> khz. >> 73 de mal/g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Roger Lapthorn >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Cc:* LF Group ; Paul Nicholson >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:09 AM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: Signal (or interferer?) overnight 8.976665kHz >> >> Thanks Chris. >> >> I had doubts it was you, but the signal seemed too stable for the usual >> interference seen. It is a pity G3ZJO didn't have his grabber on to see if >> he copied it over there too. Will be monitoring overnight so it will be >> interesting to see how well you are copied on the earth electrode "loop" >> set-up here. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g) >> >> On 7 Apr 2011, at 08:56, Chris Osborn wrote: >> >> Roger, LF, >> >> Very interesting. >> >> I did do some impromtu testing last night on my usual frequency of* 8.976 >> 661 6 kHz* >> I have installed a cover (tarpaulin) over my loading coil to keep out the >> rain and was checking to see whether it would affect the Q. >> If anything results seem better ! >> >> I eventually shut down at 21.30 (20.30Z) so the over night signal is a >> mystery. >> Others have noticed a stable carrier on or near my 'usual' frequency in >> the past. >> >> *I plan to transmit overnight tonight (7/8th April)* on the above >> frequency so would as usual welcome any reports. >> >> If anything my loading coil's inductance is slightly high for the working >> frequency and I guess the tarpaulin cover has reduced it somewhat and thus >> improved the tuning. >> I have planned for some time to make a variometer to facilitate fine >> tuning but have had trouble sourcing a suitable coil former (ideally a beer >> brewing bin or such like). >> >> 73 >> Chris G3XIZ >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Thu, 7/4/11, Roger Lapthorn * wrote: >> >> >> From: Roger Lapthorn >> Subject: Signal (or interferer?) overnight 8.976665kHz >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, sub9khz@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Osborn" >> , "g3zjo" >> Date: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 8:19 >> >> Overnight I was seeing a weak line at 8.976665kHz lasting from around 0200 >> to around 0700 (now) on SL with 424uHz setting. The grabber is still on, so >> you can look yourselves. See >> >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15047843/xbm_grab.jpg . G3ZJO's grabber is not >> on to correlate with Eddie's location. >> >> My question is who or what is it? G3XIZ was active last evening, but I do >> not know if Chris left his TX on overnight. The signal (or interferer) is >> extremely stable and was detected using the earth electrode antenna (2 >> electrodes in the garden 15m apart with an elevated wire connection (a loop >> with the earth return if you like). >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> -- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm >> >> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >> >> > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > > --001636c92ba237192f04a0585aa6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger, Mal, LF,

I think a typo crept in there, Chris= usually is on=A08.976 661 6 kHz.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.




On 7 April 2011 19:14, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:=
Hi Mal

Nothing seen from Ossi here today. So far I have only seen= his signal once (16/3/11) and that was very weakly on my loop which is or= iented in the least optimal direction for him. If he was keying the carrie= r today it's unlikely I'd have seen him in a 424uHz window. You ar= e getting a better signal than I am.=A0 A properly resonated antenna at yo= ur end will give you even better results, so good luck.

Are you looking for G3XIZ this evening? 8.966616kHz constant carrier= I think.

73s
Roger G3XBM

<= br>
On 7 April 2011 18:56, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
Roger OM
How did you copy OSSY today, he was producing a= strong=20 trace, =A0keying the carrier. I was using=A0the dfcw 600=A0window and=20 probably could have copied him at a faster speed of 120, a QSO might have= been=20 possible.
Using a 600m 1/4 wave inv L direct to the sound= card and=20 hope to improve reception soon by using the 137=A0khz inv L system and=20 resonating it for 9 khz.
73 de mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Cc: LF Group ; Paul= =20 Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:0= 9=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Signal (or=20 interferer?) overnight 8.976665kHz

Thanks Chris.=A0

I had doubts it was you, but the signal seemed too stable for the= usual=20 interference seen. It is a pity G3ZJO didn't have his grabber on to= see if he=20 copied it over there too. =A0Will be monitoring overnight so it will be= =20 interesting to see how well you are copied on the earth electrode "= loop"=20 set-up here.=A0

73s
Roger G3XBM

Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g)

On 7 Apr 2011, at 08:56, Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

=
Roger, LF,
=A0
Very interesting.
=A0
I did do some impromtu testing last night on my usual frequ= ency=20 of 8.976 661 6 kHz
I have installed a cover (tarpaulin) over my loading coil= to keep=20 out the rain and=A0was checking to see=A0whether it would affect= =20 the Q.
If anything results seem better=A0!
=A0
I eventually shut down at 21.30 (20.30Z) so the over night= signal=20 is a mystery.
Others have noticed a stable carrier on or near my 'usu= al'=20 frequency in the past.
=A0
I plan to transmit overnight tonight (7/8th=20 April) on the above frequency so would as usual welcome any= =20 reports.
=A0
If anything my loading coil's inductance is slightly hi= gh for the=20 working frequency and I guess the tarpaulin cover has reduced it= =20 somewhat and thus improved the tuning.
I have planned for some time to=A0make a variometer to=20 facilitate fine tuning but have had trouble sourcing a suitable= coil=20 former (ideally a beer brewing bin or such like).
=A0
73
Chris G3XIZ
=A0
=A0


--- On Thu, 7/4/11, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail= .com>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
Subject:=20 Signal (or interferer?) overnight 8.976665kHz
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org,=20 s= ub9khz@yahoogroups.com,=20 "Chris Osborn" <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk>, "g3zjo"=20 <= g3zjo@npton.plus.com>
Date:=20 Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 8:19

Overnight I was seeing a weak line at=20 8.976665kHz lasting from around 0200 to around 0700 (now) on= SL with=20 424uHz setting. The grabber is still on, so you can look yours= elves.=20 See https://dl.dropbox.com/u/150478= 43/xbm_grab.jpg=20 . G3ZJO's grabber is not on to correlate with Eddie's= =20 location.

My question is who or what is it? G3XIZ was= active=20 last evening, but I do not know if Chris left his TX on overni= ght.=20 The signal (or interferer) is extremely stable and was detecte= d=20 using the earth electrode antenna (2 electrodes in the garden= 15m=20 apart with an elevated wire connection (a loop with the earth= return=20 if you like).

73s
Roger G3XBM

-= -
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.= uk
http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/



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http://www= .youtube.com/user/g3xbm
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