Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.214]) by air-de04.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDE042-5eaf4dab46ad1e2; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:59:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B4B9738000095; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QBY72-0002Wh-IJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:58:28 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QBY72-0002WY-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:58:28 +0100 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QBY6z-0005Xo-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:58:27 +0100 Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so5057387iwn.16 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:58:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ne2G1MAYDT+7ntWXoen+5lTRGXQEQQJ2DwEWFDJvcSg=; b=UmhCmeQVU/6ZwlvjF3MrfLvmRGHcHNKOf4/o9JAOdN1aVil1NNbQuvhCCR9iX2lYkL lF9rFFt4uNzhEzBn/Rw5cyC2O8Is+mLlcMvukEwTFCSb/0CxT5Pbu656/+koiwR4sWXz oQgPlDCL0j1aqD1JSU/MzZtZJLZjOKVzfwXoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I8uCD5VTXDfGQeP4p1RTDoHtDBz0ksI839EvyryhZeCXrrLKYlSGmJi0g9sSac6QrD OrQ5R6+buEHxOpRj48qOUZQuuCGx7dhC/4U/NvdZpTVpbfAXv6BGrYqUEGAl/iamp4V8 kZ78pCEREMPia7od44W1YfTP6aE7fGbS7Yiyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.62.141 with SMTP id xa13mr5236705icb.293.1303070298209; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.170.197 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:58:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <598984.92253.qm@web28504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <598984.92253.qm@web28504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:58:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - Now QRT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517abee3dfd7704a122b249 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m201.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d64dab46ab3b7a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --bcaec517abee3dfd7704a122b249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Chris Yes I think you have now established the coverage with the inverted-L on VLF pretty well with the reports from your regular fans in SE England and from Paul Nicholson. There are still new stations eager to copy you (such as G3PLX in Cumbria and DK7FC,) so some further tests would be appreciated. Your situation on VLF is much as I was with QRPp on 136kHz last winter: a stepwise improvement in ERP is needed to extend the range significantly. BTW I hope to make this step on 136kHz in good time for next autumn, although I have no immediate plans for serious radiated tests on VLF, but you never know. Some G3XIZ portable operation would indeed be worth a try and I look forward to looking out for you when you try this. In the meantime, if you want me to look for you at any time you know I'm keen and usually able to look. Thanks again for giving us all the challenge of copying a UK station on VLF. 73s Roger G3XBM On 17 April 2011 19:07, Chris Osborn wrote: > LF, > > I went QRT on VLF at about 17.00Z today. > Many thanks for all reports over the weekend and I shall give a summary > later in the week. > > Balloon (and kite) launching from my home QTH is difficult and at times > quite stressful. > I have to be ever vigilant that the balloons (or kite) don't hit local > houses (TV / FM radio aerials) or come down in the adjacent playing field > (children + EHT !) > > I have a reasonable PA which if properly matched could give several hundred > watts of RF. > At present I get at best about 140 watts. > I am still using the mains matching transformer between the PA and the > loading coil and this has a step-up ratio of 1:24 > > Energizing the PA with a higher voltage than its present 30V is not an > option as the matching transformer is already running over-voltage and would > doubtless break down. > > It has been suggested that I use link coupling to the loading coil from the > PA but the one time I tried this caused damage to both the PA and the coil, > so you will sympathise with my reluctance to try that again! > > I will continue for a few weeks and see if I manage to get 'real' success > with the balloons or kite assisted aerials. > > I was considering taking apart an old PC PSU and using the output > transformer from that instead on my present iron-laminated mains > transformer. > I believe that PC types will be more suitable and handle higher voltages. > > I plan to transmit over the Easter holiday but beyond that I am uncertain. > I have a plan to try /P during the summer but this depends on gaining the > permission of the land owner, which I am waiting for at present. > > I am getting consistent reports from my 'regulars' but now need a step > change in my VLF progress. > > 73 > Chris G3XIZ > > > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --bcaec517abee3dfd7704a122b249 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris

Yes I think you have now established the coverage with the= inverted-L on VLF pretty well with the reports from your regular fans in= SE England and from Paul Nicholson. There are still new stations eager to= copy you (such as G3PLX in Cumbria and DK7FC,) so some further tests woul= d be appreciated.

Your situation on VLF is much as I was with QRPp on 136kHz last winter= : a stepwise improvement in ERP is needed to extend the range significantl= y. BTW I hope to make this step on 136kHz in good time for next autumn, al= though I have no immediate plans for serious radiated tests on VLF, but yo= u never know.

Some G3XIZ portable operation would indeed be worth a try and I look= forward to looking out for you when you try this. In the meantime, if you= want me to look for you at any time you know I'm keen and usually abl= e to look.

Thanks again for giving us all the challenge of copying a UK station= on VLF.

73s
Roger G3XBM


O= n 17 April 2011 19:07, Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
LF,

I went QRT on VLF at about 17.00Z today.
Many thanks for all= reports over the weekend and I shall give a summary later in the week.
Balloon (and kite) launching from my home QTH is difficult and at tim= es quite stressful.
I have to be ever vigilant that the balloons (or kite) don't hit local= houses (TV / FM radio aerials) or come down in the adjacent playing field= (children + EHT !)

I have a reasonable PA which if properly matche= d could give several hundred watts of RF.
At present I get at best about 140 watts.
I am still using the mains ma= tching transformer between the PA and the loading coil and this has a step= -up ratio of 1:24

Energizing the PA with a higher voltage than its= present 30V is not an option as the matching transformer is already runni= ng over-voltage and would doubtless break down.

It has been suggested that I use link coupling to the loading coil from the PA but th= e one time I tried this caused damage to both the PA and the coil, so you= will sympathise with my reluctance to try that again!

I will conti= nue for a few weeks and see if I manage to get 'real' success with= the balloons or kite assisted aerials.

I was considering taking apart an old PC PSU and using the output tran= sformer from that instead on my present iron-laminated mains transformer.<= br>I believe that PC types will be more suitable and handle higher voltage= s.

I plan to transmit over the Easter holiday but beyond that I am uncert= ain.
I have a plan to try /P during the summer but this depends on gain= ing the permission of the land owner, which I am waiting for at present.
I am getting consistent reports from my 'regulars' but now nee= d a step change in my VLF progress.

73
Chris G3XIZ





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