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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:19:06 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: Re: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio?
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Hi Horst

It is a sad fact but true.

To some extent the UK=A0authority seems to be slightly more enlighten than=
 some in=20
EU.
=A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20




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From: Horst St=F6cker <horst.stoecker@web.de>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Fri, 15 April, 2011 8:25:18
Subject: Re: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio?

I do not know the situation in Switzerland, but I bet it is similar as in=
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Germany.
You must not choose any frequency that seems not to be in use. Even below=
 9kHz=20
the situation was not quite clear for many years.
To transmit on 17,2 kHz you would have to apply for a special licence - as=
 for=20
500kHz e.g. But I am in doubt if you would get it. All other ways would be=
=20
illegal.
BTW transmitting below 9kHz or 500kHz is NOT HAM Radio in germany - no Ham=
 Radio=20
frequencies. Officially you must not work crossband - 500kHz / 3650kHz for=
=20
example. Its a strange world. Even the DARC will see things this way. QSOs=
 and=20
QSLs are not valid for any contest or award. They prefer a definition by=
 laws=20
instead of physics ;-))
But is there any wonder? 90% of HAM Radio is rag chewing on 80m SSB.=20
Experimenters are a minority.
How many hams have a computer with soundcard and how many hams are watchin=
g for=20
SAQ? About 250 have confirmed the last transmissions. Unfortunately there=
 is=20
very few interest beside the mainstream.
Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN=A0=A0


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FONT><BR>I do not know the situation in Switzerland, but I bet it is simil=
ar as in Germany.<BR>You must not choose any frequency that seems not to=
 be in use. Even below 9kHz the situation was not quite clear for many yea=
rs.<BR>To transmit on 17,2 kHz you would have to apply for a special licen=
ce - as for 500kHz e.g. But I am in doubt if you would get it. All other=
 ways would be illegal.<BR>BTW transmitting below 9kHz or 500kHz is NOT HA=
M Radio in germany - no Ham Radio frequencies. Officially you must not wor=
k crossband - 500kHz / 3650kHz for example. Its a strange world. Even the=
 DARC will see
 things this way. QSOs and QSLs are not valid for any contest or award. Th=
ey prefer a definition by laws instead of physics ;-))<BR>But is there any=
 wonder? 90% of HAM Radio is rag chewing on 80m SSB. Experimenters are a=
 minority.<BR>How many hams have a computer with soundcard and how many ha=
ms are watching for SAQ? About 250 have confirmed the last transmissions.=
 Unfortunately there is very few interest beside the mainstream.<BR>Horst=
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