Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.203]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-b5144da89cd91bf; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:30:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 65D5838000058; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QAoi9-0002w7-C7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:29:45 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QAoi8-0002vx-PW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:29:44 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QAoi5-0005Uo-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:29:44 +0100 Received: from edmwcm03 ([204.209.205.13]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20110415192938.OCSJ28229.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@edmwcm03> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:29:38 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.74] ([75.157.139.149]) by edmwcm03 with bizsmtp id XvVc1g01V3DbXvv01vVcx2; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:29:38 -0600 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 75.157.139.149 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=06XG+F0n4tdRYpz8hN3V/wdfXqtSvPgKvB9z8VCva/Y= c=1 sm=2 a=jVez_htjv6wA:10 a=vNnunLlNo5AA:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=spfw7PUuAAAA:8 a=obbzhGXA2eQB5CaLFR4A:9 a=lvJbau00jyo0y9ddcowA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=VoFPz64Ki7sA:10 a=5KVauyKsRKMA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=I9ExgN5H7jDLkJ6g:21 a=fpA__UbIWXaR3R6D:21 a=4UxE6rjMupqZK5lsR8MA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=ucH7BwLj_I8A:10 a=NcNE8pA-w1lq6XuU:18 Message-ID: <4DA89CA0.5070205@telus.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:29:36 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1404511163.2435661.1302852318538.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb049> <669371.26474.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010101010305040402000501" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/69444 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cb4da89cd4564e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010101010305040402000501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe Maybe IC doesn't trust you to behave, you have a reputation you know ;-) 73 Scott VE7TIL On 4/15/2011 11:51 AM, jcraig@mun.ca wrote: > Hi Pete, Group. > > I have tried for a year without luck to get authorisation to transmit=20 > below 9 kHz. Even though this portion of the spectrum is not allocated, > it is still illegal to transmit there from what information is available= . > > 73 > Joe VO1NA > > On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, M0FMT wrote: > >> Hi Horst > > It is a sad fact but true. > > To some extent the UK=EF=BF=BDauthority seems to be slightly more enligh= ten=20 > than some in EU. > =EF=BF=BD73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Horst St=EF=BF=BDcker > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Fri, 15 April, 2011 8:25:18 > Subject: Re: LF: 17.2 kHz for Amateur Radio? > > I do not know the situation in Switzerland, but I bet it is similar as= =20 > in Germany. > You must not choose any frequency that seems not to be in use. Even=20 > below 9kHz the situation was not quite clear for many years. > To transmit on 17,2 kHz you would have to apply for a special licence=20 > - as for 500kHz e.g. But I am in doubt if you would get it. All other=20 > ways would be illegal. > BTW transmitting below 9kHz or 500kHz is NOT HAM Radio in germany - no= =20 > Ham Radio frequencies. Officially you must not work crossband - 500kHz= =20 > / 3650kHz for example. Its a strange world. Even the DARC will see=20 > things this way. QSOs and QSLs are not valid for any contest or award.= =20 > They prefer a definition by laws instead of physics ;-)) > But is there any wonder? 90% of HAM Radio is rag chewing on 80m SSB.=20 > Experimenters are a minority. > How many hams have a computer with soundcard and how many hams are=20 > watching for SAQ? About 250 have confirmed the last transmissions.=20 > Unfortunately there is very few interest beside the mainstream. > Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD > > > > Schon geh=EF=BF=BDrt? 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