Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.214]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-86194d9e0470250; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:37:36 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9C45A3800012A; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q7u3r-0005lK-1X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:36:07 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q7u3q-0005lB-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:36:06 +0100 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7u3o-00062l-F8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:36:06 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBADMDnk1OlmeT/2dsb2JhbAAM6HGFbQSRSA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,317,1299456000"; d="scan'208,217";a="485784610" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([78.150.103.147]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2011 19:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4D9E040B.5010606@talktalk.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:35:55 +0100 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4D9DF55E.90407@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: VLF QRM puzzle - why not the same in a split screen on SL? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080801000302050803090702" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d64d9e046e649b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------080801000302050803090702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Roger Yep it surprises when you see it. I will start the 600 widow grabbing again now, Just a bit higher and we see how clean it is. There is nothing better than a tractical demifasion.:-) Marcus if we move they will only follow us:-) 73 Eddie On 07/04/2011 19:17, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Thanks to everyone (Wolf, Eddie, Marcus etc) for replying to my question. > > Eddie, yes I have seen the trace and how quickly going HF a few Hz the > interfering signals disappear. I was just a bit afraid that for some > reason the top window was less sensitive, but this seems unlikely to > be the case. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > On 7 April 2011 18:33, wolf_dl4yhf > wrote: > > Hi Roger, > > Guess the burst originates from a periodic signal (maybe something > rich in harmonics), and one of the harmonics is closer to one of > the frequency ranges than the other. Or.. the two bands are fed > from two different sources - one before, and the other after the > noise blanker, or clipper ? You can quickly check that in the > 'circuit' window. But if you say it's just the split screen mode, > then the two frequency ranges are indeed fed from the same FFT. > > All the best, > Wolf . > > > Am 07.04.2011 18:09, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > > Help... > > After lunch today my wife turned on the washing machine and > the tumble drier and for two periods there was a burst of > interference visible on the lower split screen as vertical > noise stripes. What I don't understand is why I don't see > these also on the upper trace around 8.976kHz too when the > settings are the same. I have a SL filter selected but it is > centred around 8.970kHz with 400Hz width and slopes so this > cannot explain this. Surely the noise bursts should appear in > both parts of the screen? > > Can someone who understands Spectrum Lab explain this please? > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > --------------080801000302050803090702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Roger

Yep it surprises when you see it. I will start the 600 widow grabbing again now, Just a bit higher and we see how clean it is. There is nothing better than a tractical demifasion. :-)

Marcus if we move they will only follow us :-)

73 Eddie

On 07/04/2011 19:17, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
Thanks to everyone (Wolf, Eddie, Marcus etc) for replying to my question.

Eddie, yes I have seen the trace and how quickly going HF a few Hz the interfering signals disappear. I was just a bit afraid that for some reason the top window was less sensitive, but this seems unlikely to be the case.

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 7 April 2011 18:33, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@freenet.de> wrote:
Hi Roger,

Guess the burst originates from a periodic signal (maybe something rich in harmonics), and one of the harmonics is closer to one of the frequency ranges than the other. Or.. the two bands are fed from two different sources - one before, and the other after the noise blanker, or clipper ? You can quickly check that in the 'circuit' window. But if you say it's just the split screen mode, then the two frequency ranges are indeed fed from the same FFT.

All the best,
 Wolf .


Am 07.04.2011 18:09, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:

Help...

After lunch today my wife turned on the washing machine and the tumble drier and for two periods there was a burst of interference visible on the lower split screen as vertical noise stripes. What I don't understand is why I don't see these also on the upper trace around 8.976kHz too when the settings are the same.  I have a SL filter selected but it is centred around 8.970kHz with 400Hz width and slopes so this cannot explain this. Surely the noise bursts should appear in both parts of the screen?

Can someone who understands Spectrum Lab explain this please?

73s
Roger G3XBM





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