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(VPS 110412-0, 12/04/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Insulating tape / Decca repair Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604c4da49bd61eef X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none http://www.kaptontape.com/ I think this is the 'righ stuff' for transformer construction , a dupont product that has high electrical and physical strength . and low dielectric loss G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Dennison" Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:58 PM To: Subject: LF: Insulating tape / Decca repair > > Further to my report on the failed combiner/output transformer in my > Decca QRO Tx, I have dismantled the transformer. The really good news > is that the huge (85mm dia) ferrite pot was not glued at all, and was > easily unclamped. The internal wires were more difficult, being > wrapped with cloth tape that seems to have been soaked in hard glue. > > I finally got to the secondary coil and found the shorted turn. That > coil comprises three layers wound on top of each other, but the cloth > wrapping was inadequate in one place, resulting in one turn from the > top layer being adjacent to one on the bottom layer, and thus > providing a higher voltage gradient than intended and shorting > several turns. > > So all I have to do is to improve the construction (to avoid the > voltage gradient) and re-assemble. I will wrap some sleeving over the > slightly charred wires where the short occurred. > > I need some advice on what to use to replace the glue-soaked cloth > tape. It needs to fix the turns and provide a high degree of > insulation. I could use ordinary plastic tape but it may suffer from > possible high temperatures (It is physically difficult to check > whether the transformer gets hot whilst transmitting for long > periods, but it's certainly likely). > > I have looked at the Maplin catalogue and they do "Silicone Self > Fusing Repair Tape" which seems to resist high temperatures (up to > 260 deg C) and high voltages (it actually says "7,000 volts/20mil > (0.51mm) dielectric strength", which I don't really understand). > > Should I replace the wire, or perhaps just its insulation? It is > solid, enamelled and insulated with some brown cloth or paper > (similar to the glue-soaked cloth) and is in good condition away from > the fault. Outside diameter is 2mm. > > Any suggestions or advice would be gratefully received. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > >