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From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:47:18 +0100
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Hi Markus
Yes sometimes we (in UK) get the messages and I suspect they are dumped on
the way back to you, but I cant prove any of this. Sometimes the headers are
useful. I am not sure where the spam checker was but I have a feeling with
another German station who had problems it was not in the UK. The web has
been very slow here at times over Friday and Saturday. Sony had a hack or
denial of service on PSN which suggests there was nefarious activity on the
web last week. I find that delays delivery quite often.

Alan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: test again


> Hi Alan, thanks for the comments. Also over here there was very little
> incoming traffic from the reflector on Easter. Between two messages from
> Henny (11-04-23  06:26 and 11-04-24 08:32), I only got two from Stefan,
and
> my own test.
>
> At times there seem to be some issues with spam rating. Several times in
the
> past, the reflector quietly dropped all my attempts to post while others
> were chatting happily. Typically, reposting the same message several hours
> later proved successful.
>
> Best 73,
> Markus (DF6NM)
>
>
>
> From: Alan Melia
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 12:17 AM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: LF: Re: test again
>
>
> Do I get the message that some are having trouble with the reflector
> again.??
> Markus both tests came through here ok. Certainly the BT mail server was
> very slow yesterday .....I believe reflector mail is classified as bulk
and
> lower priority so can be delayed over personal mail.
>
> There are a couple of possibilities one is that you are not receiving the
> return addressed to you but everybody else gets it.....I have this problem
> on several of the Yahoo Groups . The return of my message always goes into
> the Spam folder. It can also get delayed en-route.
>
> Some ISPs who may have been marked due to no fault of yours as the
> originators of spam soemtimes get blacklisted. The messages are just
dumped
> there is no "cant deliver" because this ping-pongs backwards and forwards
> taking up more bandwidth. Sometimes the Blacklisting is very old and the
ISP
> or perhaps an enroute node doesnt know hey are blacklisted.
>
> Sometimes an innocent word or sentence in the message will hit the spam or
> porn alarm and your message will get dumped. Some seem to get an "cant
> deliver" response to some of these but the reasons for the infringement
are
> almost impossible to work out.
>
> Specifically for Majordomo which is a very old piece of software......it
was
> designed for text messages ....it will on occasions object violently to
some
> HTML,  though passing others with no problem......I have never been able
to
> understand exactly what is going on here. You should be aware it is
possible
> to hide executing code and other nasties inside  HTML, so it is treated
with
> suspicion. You will undoubtedly have noticed that all the pharma and
> phishing emails use HTML you cant hide so easily in text.
>
> Generally incoming (to UK) mails seem to suffer worse than UK originated
> .....Again I am not sure why but the problem may somewhere on the route.
If
> you are very clever you can learn a lot from the headers........but I cant
> help there.
>
> suggestions.....try a simple text only message, try using a different
> address (ideally a different ISP) I seem to remember one user recently was
> having problems with t-online.de
>
> ....and dont worry Yahoo has it problems as well ....any system that tags
> its own moderated messages as spam has got to be neurotic :-))
>
> I hope that helps
>
> Alan G3NYK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:25 PM
> Subject: LF: test again
>
>