Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-dc02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC022-86264da5f2de3a1; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:00:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BA6CE38000093; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QA5Hx-0001TO-Kx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:59:41 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QA5Hx-0001TF-5s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:59:41 +0100 Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.251]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QA5Hw-0000NF-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:59:41 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.214] by nm10.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2011 18:59:34 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.177] by tm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2011 18:59:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2011 18:59:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 550442.9074.bm@omp1018.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4924 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2011 18:59:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=Fz15i/mkFJ9Z7uRTaT3N93+lIPM5Y1AIcfZNKGYX6L9RWXVDrGd+JYIMJaHnZz7Ja7lbrOlpT3f4y3jpKDQFNEwW3Z+AiFLcsEAF8zrJqpy8kbGoKoGoEVBaEcgw9OFAL1HDESPJkwNaE8HcXA/ULpqXhgHoJ5U3soWt4ka/ZIc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1302721174; bh=yqRGW9vMUcq9MeXqMqhmE+KVw3sIJBF77+V+YCRL1z0=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=VAIOsNTlQOgSNJkV9yE4YJ4nibPcz/HeRwzCSF9A9aWBeGkDwr0aDU1Xi3zfExhK4Xl+n2t8Ga2+YwwtwOoO4vlYVM8Xz8XJHtZllbAsbYtxzf7XPtZQW27nOVHh1vhdJH/p9+7ewpxlWxEZ25UhKQgBdCeos0hP0lKBnVWjeYY= Received: from lark (alan.melia@81.129.100.64 with login) by smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2011 18:59:34 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: acEYtlwVM1mvPgCJl3kluvaKcdrOJleIg.fffTymkuT9ilb 6qQiyDV0LwJ.x6VqFFSWV.8woF7_JMNjyhMen_WikxI6UK.pYRz9VvyuVZgH Z9pDPXNnM6YbSfiA_Ve.wzExo.4_JE3p9D9ZnnSmnSHt9aF10gRCvSiOm7RB HDH1306OV_D4geCnsyekL21FTknEn4JuckXxvWHCsbw8DVloXTZtGZ_H0Hww S0CIokT8WgFQPWx13.EZ_HI28Vpf7znoQuc48tAuT4iin06DBvUmYGIMhgOJ NvIRWJSdTtM_MDayk8iaM9ai2z7J9EPxvPz0I4YXVVjPdgHg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <003901cbfa0c$f628ed60$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4DA4C478.8000300@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4DA596F8.7010007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4DA5C918.20403@telus.net> <4DA5E899.3060201@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:55:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110413-0, 13/04/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: field strength as a function of frequency curve... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d012.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a64da5f2d86593 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same doc Stefan but the URL was about 4 chapters later ....also slight= ly interesting from VLF angle. I think its a fairly practical doc for the= use of technicians, rather than a theoretical treatise. I had forgotten th= at site I found it several year ago but lost the URL. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: Re: VLF: field strength as a function of frequency curve... Ah OK, sorry Scott. I haven't proved the document, just forwarded the link and checked the first page. Theoretical stuff isn't my central interest, you know ;-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 13.04.2011 18:02, schrieb Scott Tilley: > Hi Stefan/group > > This looks it may be the link or at least a very interesting one: > > http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/0101-1xx/0101_113-02.pdf > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > On 4/13/2011 5:28 AM, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: >> VLF, >> >> Am 12.04.2011 23:30, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: >>> VLF, >>> >>> I've just got these graphs by a SWL (or better LWL) out of an >>> unknown paper. >> >> Now i've got the URL for this document: >> >> www.navy-radio.com/manuals/0101-1xx/0101_113-06.pdf >> >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >> >>> It shows the results of field strength achievements as a function= of >>> the TX frequency for different distances and a given TX power. >>> Have we all known about this? Me not ;-) Now i understand why the >>> military stations are located mostly between 15 and 25 kHz... >>> But 8970 Hz is not much worse, at least distances below 4000 km... >>> >>> But that graph tell me it is rather difficult to reach TF3HZ or >>> 4X1RF on 5170 Hz. Anyway we'll see... >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >