Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.129]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-86ae4d8ca10a310; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:04:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 80998380000F4; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q37c1-0003Kf-Op for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:03:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q37c1-0003KW-Al for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:03:37 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q37bz-0005ED-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:03:37 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W18 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:03:29 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.166] From: Laurence KL7UK To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:03:28 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D8B86E7.20602@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <8CDB82718FF0CEC-B4C-BB65@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com>,<4D8B86E7.20602@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2011 14:03:29.0141 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AE41250:01CBEAF5] X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_065380ec-0682-40a4-8539-d0cadb3d5f58_" Subject: LF: Phase and FFT's X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40814d8ca103741d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_065380ec-0682-40a4-8539-d0cadb3d5f58_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I think what I find fascinating is the absolute variations from day to day= on th Alaska to Eu path, and how each VLF signal has its own independant= phase and amp signature variation over a 24 hour period - and wondering= why for instance DH038 can have (does have) one of the largest dawn/dusk= deltas compared with similar bearing(d) Eu VLF signals - I just dont see= as much from reasonably co-located transmitters. =20 I too dont get the same for non-Auroral zone paths, though Im sure Im get= ting signals coming in skewed at times, and "noisy" rapid phase variations= too which are obvious on the faster FFT's/snappers akin to Markus's Loran= plots - perhaps net affects from the Alaskan range, Rockies or Andes and= not just the Electrons/Protons or short term variations in heating. =20 Im sure the maths is there and probably something to do with the two-cross= ings of the Auroral oval, the small but inclusive depointing of the loop,= but wondering or mulling if DHo38 and similar are launching into the "wav= eguide" differently or there is some V/H directional component bespoke to= each VLF transmission maybe caused by ground conditions within a few lamb= da... =20 Must be a Friday. =20 Laurence KL7UK remote ops from Oklahoma =20 ps still dont have control of the VLF rx up in Alaska but hoping it will= be restored today.. =3D --_065380ec-0682-40a4-8539-d0cadb3d5f58_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
I think what I find fascinating is the absolute variations from day to day= on th Alaska to Eu path, and how each VLF signal has its own independant= phase and amp signature variation over a 24 hour period - and wondering= why for instance DH038 can have (does have) one of the largest dawn/dusk= deltas compared with similar bearing(d) Eu VLF signals - I just dont see= as much from reasonably co-located transmitters.
 
I too dont get the  same for non-Auroral zone paths, though Im sure= Im getting signals coming in skewed at times, and "noisy" rapid phase var= iations too which are obvious on the faster FFT's/snappers akin to Markus'= s Loran plots - perhaps net affects from the Alaskan range, Rockies= or Andes and not just the Electrons/Protons or short term variations in= heating.
 
Im sure the maths is there and probably something to do with the two-cross= ings of the Auroral oval, the small but inclusive depointing of the loop,= but wondering or mulling if DHo38 and similar are launching into the "wav= eguide" differently or there is some V/H directional component bespoke to= each VLF transmission maybe caused by ground conditions within a few lamb= da...
 
Must be a Friday.
 
Laurence KL7UK remote ops from  Oklahoma
 
ps still dont have control of the VLF rx up in Alaska but hoping it will= be restored today..

 
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