Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.74]) by air-mc06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC063-a9754d790c4c286; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:37:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C287838000EF3; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pxjmc-0006VF-TS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:36:18 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pxjmc-0006V6-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:36:18 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl ([194.134.42.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxjma-0005pu-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:36:18 +0000 Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F2866228 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:36:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s529d275f.adsl.wanadoo.nl [82.157.39.95]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:36:10 +0100 (CET) From: To: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:36:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: 8970.025 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CBDF52.06C2C090" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc14a4d790c4739c6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CBDF52.06C2C090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus, how accurate can you receive a 60 KHz time signal,I don't know. If the= re is no doppler shift or simmilar effects it should be spot on at the 0.00H= z marker.Then Henny's freq should be 8970.0237Hz.... The beads are probably caused by the computer,I don't see them on a la= ptop but the laptop drifts much more. Hope this helps you, 73 Victor PS looking ar RWM at 9.996MHz in a qrss60 screen shows dopplershift up= to 2Hz during a day. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Markus Vester Verzonden: woensdag 9 maart 2011 23:03 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 8970.025 Hi Victor, nice signal from Henny, without any visible drift. How accurate is= the displayed frequency, 8970.0237 Hz? Do you have an idea about the regularly spaced "beads" on the line?= Looks almost like 180=B0 phase inversions. Is that an intentional modulation= ? Similar effects could be caused by buffer underflows in one of the soundcards, eg. due to samplerate oddities. Best regards, Markus (DF6NM) From: victor13@online.nl Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:32 PM To: blacksheep Subject: LF: 8970.025 HI all, attached a picture from Henny's signal the last 24 hours that shows= the total drift of his tx,my rx and the soundblaster audigy soundcard.No= t much to see with a noisebandwidth of 438 uHz. No locking to gps or wathever.The signal at 0.00Hz is Rugby at 60 KH= z to check my rx. 73 Victor PA3FNY ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CBDF52.06C2C090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 Markus,
 
how accurate can you receive a 60 KHz time= signal,I=20 don't know. If there is= no doppler=20 shift or simmilar effects it should be spot on at the 0.00Hz marker.Th= en Henny's=20 freq should be 8970.0237Hz....
The beads are probably caused by the compu= ter,I don't=20 see them on a laptop but the laptop drifts much=20 more.
Hope this helps you,<= /FONT>
 
73
Victor
 
PS looking ar RWM at 9.996MHz in a qrss60= screen shows=20 dopplershift up to 2Hz during a day.
 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van:= =20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Markus=20 Vester
Verzonden: woensdag 9 maart 2011 23:03
Aan:= =20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF:=20 8970.025

Hi Victor,
 
nice signal from Henny, without&nbs= p;any visible=20 drift. How accurate is the displayed frequency, 8970.0237 Hz?=
 
Do you have an idea about the= regularly=20 spaced "beads" on the line? Looks almost like 180=B0 phase=20 inversions. Is that an intentional modulation? Similar eff= ects could=20 be caused by buffer underflows in one of the soundcards, eg. du= e to=20 samplerate oddities.
 
Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: LF: 8970.025
=
HI all,

attached a picture from Henny's signal the last= 24 hours=20 that shows the
total drift of his tx,my rx and the soundblaster= audigy=20 soundcard.Not much
to see with a noisebandwidth of 438 uHz.
No= locking=20 to gps or wathever.The signal at 0.00Hz is Rugby at 60 KHz to
che= ck my=20 rx.

73
Victor
PA3FNY

 
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