Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.217]) by air-da10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA102-861a4d7b8d1c387; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:11:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CAE4938000096; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PyQSK-0002VW-Mf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:10:12 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PyQSG-0002VN-11 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:10:08 +0000 Received: from mail-gx0-f171.google.com ([209.85.161.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PyQSD-0000FD-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:10:07 +0000 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22so575832gxk.16 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:09:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AfL+bY1pDJgRUOQdQkZ7rxnirXccZ4Xiw9CdWQoBfpA=; b=qG67gRAN7OUTMe9fmrIVSzwHqjwCbuoiLvWds95A3iSE0Ac5iShsPdFOl2unNHV7Gt bBC5tQbEUZjbRa9NsNc2yEKSZ1jvjnCjdHlPXRlGXroHPaI50o6TiOq+nOn9t0j6PlPZ 2yQacGP2sGuOFCnsEgHihSUeD8WF/EeBJ5jXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kwjKeyWSy3prq9uD3/3lA1hz/mz4dCAcldqfP8m37OpbEnUE7KPmztTNGsOjzKHgxc J7zQtQdU5rVFyJR7on4lUDzgTWZvRhNJdC5wsvkKqLqDTsqHtqVDCt7eIjd01JljWsLv VjlbIQ7crRlNSGc8wf94n/7Ebnd0WPJWiZUOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.57.6 with SMTP id j6mr2055775ank.105.1299942599100; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.249.11 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:09:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5DA936C746C7432AA6E833B9CACE239F@AGB> References: <006301cbe00d$762f0220$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001501cbe091$863ebf50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <5DA936C746C7432AA6E833B9CACE239F@AGB> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:09:59 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: i5Rht63IF_1hqOHxNdsgQt9JSIA Message-ID: From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed69f8d90ac6049e4a7812 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=CELL_PHONE_BOOST,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d248.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d94d7b8d1a5531 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636ed69f8d90ac6049e4a7812 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Graham, LF, It looks pretty close to me, are you some kind of "book worm" finding/knowing these quotes ?? Hi. 73, Gary - G4WGT. On 12 March 2011 11:47, Graham wrote: > > > Acts 20:35 may be applicable in this case ? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mal hamilton" > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:43 AM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces > > >> Yes Markus >> But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months to observe a signal at >> rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time is QRS 60 and preferably >> Faster. >> We need the transmitting stations to increase power ie more ERP then there >> would be no need for uH bandwidths and year long dashes hi >> de mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Markus Vester" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces >> >> >> Dear Mal, >>> >>> with all due respect, I very much disagree here. >>> >>> Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the right time and within a >>> milliHz >>> of a confirmed and correctly calibrated frequency, I have hardly a doubt >>> about the validity of the reception. Even more so if the transmission can >>> >> be >> >>> verified by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another location. >>> >>> It seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent sensitivity at VLF. >>> It >>> would be fantastic if you could augment that with a stable, properly >>> calibrated, and narrowband reception system. SpecLab has made that so >>> easy >>> now - throw out the wildly drifting "receiver", connect your antenna >>> directly to the soundcard instead, lock to one of your MSK neighbours >>> (GBZ >>> or GQD), and your in the game. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Markus (DF6NM) >>> >>> >>> From: mal hamilton >>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM >>> To: rsgb >>> Subject: LF: VLF traces >>> >>> >>> I can see a couple of vy weak traces around 8970 but this is no guarantee >>> who it might be because there is no ID. Frequency alone is not a VALID >>> report- it could be anything. >>> G3KEV >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > --001636ed69f8d90ac6049e4a7812 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham, LF,

It looks pretty close to me, are you some= kind of "book worm" finding/knowing these quotes ?? Hi.

73, Gary - G4WGT.

On= 12 March 2011 11:47, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


Acts 20:35 =A0 may =A0be =A0applicable =A0in this case ?

--------------------------------------------------
From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:43 AM
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces


Yes Markus
But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months to observe a signal at=
rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time is QRS 60 and preferably Faster.
We need the transmitting stations to increase power ie more ERP then there=
would be no need for uH bandwidths and year long dashes hi
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces


Dear Mal,

with all due respect, I very much disagree here.

Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the right time and within a milliHz=
of a confirmed and correctly calibrated frequency, I have hardly a doubt about the validity of the reception. Even more so if the transmission can<= br>
be
verified by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another location.

It seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent sensitivity at VLF. It=
would be fantastic if you could augment that with a stable, properly
calibrated, and narrowband reception system. SpecLab has made that so easy=
now - throw out the wildly drifting "receiver", connect your ant= enna
directly to the soundcard instead, lock to one of your MSK neighbours (GBZ=
or GQD), and your in the game.

Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)


From: mal hamilton
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: VLF traces


I can see a couple of vy weak traces around 8970 but this is no guarantee<= br> who it might be because there is no ID. Frequency alone is not a VALID
report- it could be anything.
G3KEV










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