Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.180.8]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-86544d8e4cd432; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:30:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 96DBC380002CA; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q3a6a-0004Ij-Hb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:29:04 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q3a6V-0004Ia-RQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:28:59 +0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3a6T-0000kf-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:28:59 +0000 Received: by iyi20 with SMTP id 20so2391219iyi.16 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:28:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p79XlLWo6TUVq2hn+oF5vpfAr6/LtqrMKtWPo6lFjWE=; b=Djb5sc+8UtdB69fhukikoWN2S8XL1OPqAK0gjO0mRMtEc3CXB84obQ1tdLh2KAnkUy hxUhb1etwi0srAPPxKvYCw09PHMzFN4QxOjZWru/TUJbfPv/oZCaEr5lUaXStR4xa2Gm QnyJ3ZtB77CBJknGnVgb+Vqzx85FLIATG1rrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kvwDHj/72imtoqS/C7khmRVYrOkcypef1egUoYYQOrvN8eEeS0xdD+vxhTQOPg2rWL MrHKz8ITl7Mtk0+Y8txwJKCdjM5Tcs1l+CpZew/j34a8GmI1W7uFmvP7Kr4XuB0LJWR3 LcdmjddeBMKmSvoXkWoh7nVqfizbz7s/0iIeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.131.6 with SMTP id x6mr3398409ics.30.1301171330970; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.240.129 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:28:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <004001cbebf0$8c8fe4f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <002101cbebe3$d74dba10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004001cbebf0$8c8fe4f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:28:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF acty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1efe68f972c9049f688e92 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d291.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4084d8e4cd10f91 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --90e6ba1efe68f972c9049f688e92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mal Yes, I acknowledge this is true and wish you well in trying to be the first to achieve a DX QRSS3 QSO at VLF. Few now doubt this is going to be possible, although a little over 12 months ago few of us here believed it would be. Judging by signal levels here I think you stand the best chance with Uwe DJ8WX or Stefan with his kite. G3ZJO, M0BMU, G3WCD, G3XDV, and many others including me are doing our bit by looking carefully for these European VLF stations and providing them useful reports and screen shots. Each of us in our own way is trying to move the VLF scene forward. BTW have you now applied for and got an NoV for 8.7-9.1kHz? 73s Roger G3XBM On 26 March 2011 20:01, mal hamilton wrote: > I thought the ability to copy long haul signals in QRS 3 mode was an > improvement over QRS 6000 or slower. It takes me minutes whereas it takes > you hours and days to achieve the same object. > I think you are getting mixed up and ABUSIVE AGAIN > > g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: VLF acty > > Mal > > If you check G3ZJO, G3XDV, M0BMU, Paul Nicholson (probably others too) and > my own postings and screenshots here and on the sub-9Khz Yahoo group and > website you'll see very positive identification of the Europeans such as > G3XIZ, DK7FC, DJ8WX and OE5ODL. > > You seem unable/unwilling to resolve signals much better than a few Hz > whereas better equipped stations (albeit without such big antennas, mouths > and egos) are able to measure with great accuracy and can be quite sure who > is being seen and when. > > > > > The best thing you can do would be to get a Dreamer's band NoV, get TXing > and get some positive QSOs under your belt. We will look up to you when you > are one side of the first >500km sub-9Khz QRSS3 QSO. Go for it! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > On 26 March 2011 18:30, mal hamilton wrote: > >> Am I the only one in the UK able to copy the EU STATIONS >> regularily around 9 khz, especially in dfcw 600 and as fast as qrs3 >> >> I have not seen other reception observations or recorded screen >> observations like I have submitted and I do not mean enhanced or overlay >> reconstituted material. >> >> >> de g3kev >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --90e6ba1efe68f972c9049f688e92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal

Yes, I acknowledge this is true and wish you well in trying to= be the first to achieve a DX QRSS3 QSO at VLF.=A0 Few now doubt this is= going to be possible, although a little over 12 months ago few of us here= believed it would be. Judging by signal levels here I think you stand the= best chance with Uwe DJ8WX or Stefan with his kite.

G3ZJO, M0BMU, G3WCD, G3XDV, and many others including me are doing our= bit by looking carefully for these European VLF stations and providing th= em useful reports and screen shots.=A0 Each of us in our own way is trying= to move the VLF scene forward.

BTW have you now applied for and got an NoV for 8.7-9.1kHz?

73s=
Roger G3XBM



On 26 March 2011= 20:01, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
I thought the ability to copy long haul signals= in QRS 3=20 mode was an improvement over=A0QRS 6000 or slower. It takes me minutes=20 whereas it takes you hours and days to achieve the same object.
I think you are getting mixed up and ABUSIVE=20 AGAIN
=A0
g3kev
=A0
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011= 7:42=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF acty

Mal

If you check G3ZJO, G3XDV, M0BMU, Paul Nicholson (probab= ly=20 others too) and my own postings and screenshots here and on the sub-9Khz= Yahoo=20 group and website you'll see very positive identification of the Eur= opeans=20 such as G3XIZ, DK7FC, DJ8WX and OE5ODL.

You seem unable/unwillin= g to=20 resolve signals much better than a few Hz whereas better equipped statio= ns=20 (albeit without such big antennas, mouths and egos) are able to measure= with=20 great accuracy and can be quite sure who is being seen and when.
=A0
=A0


The best thing you can do would= be to get=20 a Dreamer's band NoV, get TXing and get some positive QSOs under you= r belt. We=20 will look up to you when you are one side of the first >500km sub-9Kh= z=20 QRSS3 QSO. Go for it!

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 26 March 2011 18:30, mal hamilton <g= 3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:
Am I the only one in the UK=A0able to copy= the EU=20 STATIONS regularily=A0around 9 khz, especially in dfcw 600 and as fast= as=20 qrs3
=A0
I have not seen other reception observations= or=20 recorded screen observations like I have submitted and I do not mean= =20 enhanced or overlay reconstituted material.
=A0
=A0
de g3kev
=A0
=A0
=A0



-- http://g3xb= m-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
http://www= .youtube.com/user/g3xbm
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
G3XBM=A0=A0 GQRP=20 1678=A0=A0=A0 ISWL G11088



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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/<= br>http://www.g3xbm.c= o.uk
http://www= .youtube.com/user/g3xbm
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
G3XBM=A0=A0 GQRP 1678= =A0=A0=A0 ISWL G11088
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