Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.132]) by air-db10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB104-869e4d904305249; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:12:54 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9DAB0380007A7; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q47Xh-0003hj-9E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:17 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q47Xg-0003ha-M8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:16 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.29] helo=Alfaes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q47Xd-0006AF-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:16 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,253,1299456000"; d="scan'208,217";a="18226992" Received: from echoes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com (HELO gwserv.thalesgroup.com) ([172.31.141.5]) by Alfaes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2011 08:11:08 +0000 Received: from ([193.150.182.142]) by echoes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com with ESMTP id 8BYFQH1.13346136; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:03 +0100 Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:03 +0100 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935D48@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:11:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: RE: Special G calls (was Re: LF: VLF traces) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBED1F.AE217B30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16,HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40844d9042fe6e83 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBED1F.AE217B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used to use G9BQV - if I remember correctly - many years ago (1980 -ish) when I worked for Marconi (when It was a real engineering company....). Us= ed it for hf test transmissions for the AEW Nimrod variant. Nice to see that they have actually given up (at last) trying to use that dammned airframe= - pity it took them so long. We had a LOT of trouble shoe-horning in the hf/vhf/uhf comms gear. Almost as cramped as my back-bedroom radio room :-) =20 73s Paul G8GJA -----Original Message----- From: John Rabson [mailto:john.rabson@numeo.fr] Sent: 13 March 2011 09:24 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Special G calls (was Re: LF: VLF traces) Some G7 and G9 calls were issued for a variety of purposes in the 1950s an= d later:=20 G7xx (two letter suffix only) used by marine radio colleges and also for some high Arctic expeditions (G7AA and G7AB for example), G7xxx (three letters) class B amateur licences - 1960s onwards, G9AED was the original Independent Television Authority test transmitter= at Crystal Palace, London about 1955, G9x (one letter) would be a contest callsign in the amateur service. I have been told that other G9 calls have been used by inspectors working for the UK licensing authority (GPO/RA/Ofcom depending on the date). Some years ago, a G8 compiled a list of G7xx and G9xxx calls but I forgot= to ask him for a copy. G9BF was the fictitious callsign used by a regular contributor to Short Wa= ve Magazine who satirised poor operating practices. G9BOF might perhaps be= of similar origin (BOF =3D Birds of a Feather, people who share a common interest). The word Boffin reminds me of the term =93Grimble=94, which was used in st= udent radio when I was involving such things. It had a slightly broader meaning, because the head of news (for examples) would be known at some stations as the chief News Grimble. I do not know the origin of the word but it may ha= ve been related to a Doctor MJ Grimble of Manchester University. I believe= he was a specialist in power engineering. 73 John F5VLF On 13 Mar 2011, at 01:51CET, Markus Vester wrote: perhaps related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boffin ?? =20 73, Markus =20 From: qrss@talktalk.net =20 Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:46 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces A can of worms. Some would say G9*** is a research and development licence and no G9's are Amateur calls. "G9 Plus two or three letters have been issued to research organisations" However "I used a G9 plus two callsign for research activities" "About 5 years ago, I obtained GW9T for Wrexham ARS." Quotes are from MW1LCR So there is a bit of background on G9 calls. What I think Andy was doing= was telling the story without using a normal Amateur callsign which may have been issued ie not an actual person, for the illustration. Or does Andy use G9BOF at work, I don't know. Eddie This email, including any attachment, is a confidential communication intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It contains information which is private and may be proprietary or covered by legal professional privilege. If you have received this emai= l in error, please notify the sender upon receipt, and immediately delete it from your system. Anything contained in this email that is not connected with the businesses of this company is neither endorsed by nor is the liability of this compan= y. Whilst we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure that any attachment= to this email has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses, and would advise that yo= u carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBED1F.AE217B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I used=20 to use G9BQV - if I remember correctly - many years ago (1980 -ish) when= I=20 worked for Marconi (when It was a real engineering company....). Used it= for hf=20 test transmissions for the AEW Nimrod variant. Nice to see that they have= =20 actually given up (at last) trying to use that dammned airframe - pity it= took=20 them so long. We had a LOT of trouble shoe-horning in the hf/vhf/uhf comms= gear.=20 Almost as cramped as my back-bedroom radio room :-)
 
73s
Paul   G8GJA
-----Original Message-----
From: John Rabson= =20 [mailto:john.rabson@numeo.fr]
Sent: 13 March 2011=20 09:24
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Spec= ial G=20 calls (was Re: LF: VLF traces)

Some G7 and G9 calls= were=20 issued for a variety of purposes in the 1950s and later:

G7xx  (two letter suffix only) used by marine radio colleges= and=20 also for some high Arctic expeditions (G7AA and G7AB for example),
G7xxx  (three letters) class B amateur licences - 1960s=20 onwards,
G9AED  was the original Independent Television Authority test= =20 transmitter at Crystal Palace, London about 1955,
G9x (one letter) would be a contest callsign in the amateur=20 service.

I have been told that other G9 calls have been used by inspectors= working=20 for the UK licensing authority (GPO/RA/Ofcom depending on the date).

Some years ago, a G8 compiled a list of G7xx and G9xxx calls but I= forgot=20 to ask him for a copy.

G9BF was the fictitious callsign used by a regular contributor to= Short=20 Wave Magazine who satirised poor operating practices.  G9BOF might= =20 perhaps be of similar origin (BOF =3D Birds of a Feather, people who sha= re a=20 common interest).

The word Boffin reminds me of the term =93Grimble=94, which was use= d in=20 student radio when I was involving such things. It had a slightly broade= r=20 meaning, because the head of news (for examples) would be known at some= =20 stations as the chief News Grimble. I do not know the origin of the word= but=20 it may have been related to a Doctor MJ Grimble of Manchester University= .=20  I believe he was a specialist in power engineering.

73
John F5VLF

On 13 Mar 2011, at 01:51CET, Markus Vester wrote:

 
73, Markus
 

Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces

A can of worms.
Some would say G9*** is a=20 research and development licence and no G9's are Amateur calls.
= "G9=20 Plus two or three letters have been issued to research=20 organisations"
However
"I used a G9 plus tw= o=20 callsign for research activities
"
"About 5 years ago,= I=20 obtained GW9T for Wrexham ARS."
Quotes are from MW1LCR
<= BR>So=20 there is a bit of background on G9 calls. What I think Andy was doing= was=20 telling the story without using a normal Amateur callsign which may ha= ve=20 been issued ie not an actual person, for the illustration.

Or= does=20 Andy use G9BOF at work, I don't=20 know.

Eddie



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