Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.141]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-86494d6edf1b2a7; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:21:47 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5B21E3800008E; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PuwHk-0004BT-HG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 00:20:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PuwHk-0004BK-17 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 00:20:52 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PuwHh-0000kg-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 00:20:52 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3421.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 95E9C1C00092 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:20:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3421.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 872A21C00094 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:20:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.51.246]) by mwinf3421.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5D18C1C00092 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:20:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20110303002043381.5D18C1C00092@mwinf3421.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <670844AA27014CCE88BA2F0F4D83A621@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <009c01cbd92e$c4258f70$4001a8c0@lark> <0E0F00B1085A44EB9DE562B4A8BF5FAD@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <0E0F00B1085A44EB9DE562B4A8BF5FAD@JimPC> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 00:20:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110302-1, 02/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Corona Discharge - how to prevent ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408d4d6edf1929ad X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Ok Jim ..... Interesting point about moving the discharge point round the antenna .... may be at the far end is the safest place , would not want to induce evil spirits in the shed ! .. though I suspect you refer to 137 khz and not 500 , the feed from the variometer is quite 'hot' but nothing 'glows' in the dark Re the Bino's , not quite needed as the end of the wire is about 7 feet off the ground , could be the reason for the discharge , the capacity wire is inverted L shaped , from the top loading coil .. 73 -G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "James Moritz" Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:54 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Corona Discharge - how to prevent ? > Dear Graham, Alan, LF Group, > > Corona rings as in the attachment have served me well over the years - > they > do seem to substantially increase the voltage at which the onset of corona > happens. I doubt if multiple rings, spheres etc. will be much improvement, > since then the maximum potential gradient will then just occur around the > wire in the middle of the span instead of at the ends, and the corona > will > move to that point. When I first started fitting them, I found that adding > the corona ring would get rid of the corona at one end or sharp bend of > the > wire, only for it to reappear at a different point, until all ends and > corners, and the connection to the loading coil, were so "protected". > Make > sure there are no loose ends of wire hanging out. Also, try to maximise > the > distance between the wire and any other conducting objects, even poor > conductors like trees, woodwork, masonry, etc. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU >