Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.130]) by air-mb05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB054-a5bc4d7b5da2b6; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:48:50 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 68D0738000083; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PyNId-0000tS-BM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:47:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PyNIc-0000tJ-UY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:47:58 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PyNIa-0005SS-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:47:58 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 261C61C00081 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:47:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 186661C00084 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:47:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.77.37]) by mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id A82A01C00081 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:47:47 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20110312114747688.A82A01C00081@mwinf3528.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5DA936C746C7432AA6E833B9CACE239F@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <006301cbe00d$762f0220$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001501cbe091$863ebf50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001501cbe091$863ebf50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:47:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110311-1, 11/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=CELL_PHONE_BOOST, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40824d7b5d9f581f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Acts 20:35 may be applicable in this case ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces > > Yes Markus > But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months to observe a signal at > rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time is QRS 60 and preferably > Faster. > We need the transmitting stations to increase power ie more ERP then there > would be no need for uH bandwidths and year long dashes hi > de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Markus Vester" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces > > >> Dear Mal, >> >> with all due respect, I very much disagree here. >> >> Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the right time and within a >> milliHz >> of a confirmed and correctly calibrated frequency, I have hardly a doubt >> about the validity of the reception. Even more so if the transmission can > be >> verified by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another location. >> >> It seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent sensitivity at VLF. >> It >> would be fantastic if you could augment that with a stable, properly >> calibrated, and narrowband reception system. SpecLab has made that so >> easy >> now - throw out the wildly drifting "receiver", connect your antenna >> directly to the soundcard instead, lock to one of your MSK neighbours >> (GBZ >> or GQD), and your in the game. >> >> Best regards, >> Markus (DF6NM) >> >> >> From: mal hamilton >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM >> To: rsgb >> Subject: LF: VLF traces >> >> >> I can see a couple of vy weak traces around 8970 but this is no guarantee >> who it might be because there is no ID. Frequency alone is not a VALID >> report- it could be anything. >> G3KEV >> >> >> > > >