Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.146]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME072-8bb94d8fa9e4281; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:19:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0CBE3380005F4; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q3xMG-0007lA-MB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:18:48 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q3xMG-0007l1-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:18:48 +0100 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3xME-0004jr-NU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:18:48 +0100 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950B22000095B for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 8A4A92000096F; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [10.3.153.39]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn@toya.net.pl) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AB45B2000095B for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:18:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D8FA9B3.1020303@toya.net.pl> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:18:43 +0200 From: Piotr Mlynarski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Earth capacitance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40924d8fa9e05e06 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Andy Talbot pisze: > Here's an interesting little thought excercise > > Consider the Earth as one plate of a capacitor, and the lower surface > of the ionosphere as the other. Without actually doing the > calculation, what do you 'feel' the capacitiance might be? > > Then do the calculation; the result is rather surprising > > Dear Andy, LF as i had completely no idea what might be the value of such defined capacitance i immediately thought that this "interesting little thought excercise" could be added to my sunday evening cup of coffee ... :) Gauss theorem says that E field from charge Q on a sphere of radius R is E = Q/(4*pi*eps*R*R) having now two spheres: inner (earth) R1 and outer: ionosphere R2 the potential V = integral from R1 to R2 over EdR which immediately gives V = (Q/4*pi*eps)*(1/R1 - 1/R2) so as C = Q/V one gets C = 4*pi*eps/(1/R1 - 1/R2) assuming R1 = 6370km ; R2 = 6370km + 60km = 6430 km; eps = 8.854*10^-12 F/m C is about 0.076F or 76 miliFarad pse, check my "homework" :) Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/