Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.205]) by air-mb06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB062-a6ff4d7fb741189; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:00:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1F5E2380000D0; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PzZSB-00021f-KI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:58:47 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PzZSA-00021W-Uy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:58:46 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzZS9-0002X5-2i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:58:46 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2FIwgoo003925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:58:43 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id p2FIwhDp005816 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:58:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4D7FB6B4.5000002@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:57:56 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003201cbde72$606d6090$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><543492.45357.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><998C9385-2AEE-4C44-91FE-86FE85F09BA9@gmail.com><6F4ACB3DA2BB4E338E9278EEDE300D20@JimPC><4D791085.6000304@freenet.de> <88166509D1CC44BD89560D815F2A8BBA@JimPC> <46829E04645940D4A51EB04524B6C7D7@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <46829E04645940D4A51EB04524B6C7D7@JimPC> X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: VLF Stability and soundcard locking Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050403020201090507030100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cd4d7fb73d2da8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050403020201090507030100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, VLF, Am 12.03.2011 01:51, schrieb James Moritz: > Dear Andy, Wolf, LF Group, > > Over last night and today I did some further tests with my cheapo USB > sound card and calibration source, but this time using a different > laptop PC. Result - after some fiddling, sample rate error indicated > by SpecLab matches measured error of clock crystal frequency, and a > nice glitch-free spectral line with 180uHz FFT resolution. So the > erratic measured sample rate would seem to be more specific-PC-related > than sound card related. I also got glitch-free results using the > internal sound card of the desktop machine I tried the USB sound card > with previously, which I guess would at least suggest the cause of the > problem is not within SpecLab. [...] Absolutely! I have done some TX tests in the last weeks after the mishap in my 10th experiment. There the DFCW-600 transmissions were quite fuzzy. I found that the reason seems not the be a EMC problem (strong local E fields near the antenna) but rather the PC. Local tests with locking to DHO38 showed that the signal was still fuzzy, so the GPS module isn't the source of errors as well. Later i found that the signal is much clearer with another PC (more than 10 years old HP notebook, once running at win95). Back to the netbook (running at win7): In the task manager i observed the CPU load and found some short and sudden peaks to 100% although no other programs were running and WLAN was disabled. I knew that everything was fine in the 9th experiment, with exactly the same hardware. So something must habe been changed. The solution: Before some time i changed the _netbooks energy saving mode_. It reduces the CPU power if traffic is low. But the reduced power seems not to be enough for SL, sometimes. So the system toggles between low and high load and this seemed to produce the massive phase glitches. Now i choosed "_maximum power_" mode (QRO! :-) )and get a nice and stable trace, even in the 6000 window. The trace looks "perfect" in 600 of course. So i hope to be able to produce a well readable signal in my 11th experiment that will be in April. 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------050403020201090507030100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, VLF,

Am 12.03.2011 01:51, schrieb James Moritz:
Dear Andy, Wolf, LF Group,

Over last night and today I did some further tests with my cheapo USB sound card and calibration source, but this time using a different laptop PC. Result - after some fiddling, sample rate error indicated by SpecLab matches measured error of clock crystal frequency, and a nice glitch-free spectral line with 180uHz FFT resolution. So the erratic measured sample rate would seem to be more specific-PC-related than sound card related. I also got glitch-free results using the internal sound card of the desktop machine I tried the USB sound card with previously, which I guess would at least suggest the cause of the problem is not within SpecLab. [...]

Absolutely! I have done some TX tests in the last weeks after the mishap in my 10th experiment. There the DFCW-600 transmissions were quite fuzzy. I found that the reason seems not the be a EMC problem (strong local E fields near the antenna) but rather the PC. Local tests with locking to DHO38 showed that the signal was still fuzzy, so the GPS module isn't the source of errors as well.
Later i found that the signal is much clearer with another PC (more than 10 years old HP notebook, once running at win95).

Back to the netbook (running at win7): In the task manager i observed the CPU load and found some short and sudden peaks to 100% although no other programs were running and WLAN was disabled. I knew that everything was fine in the 9th experiment, with exactly the same hardware. So something must habe been changed.

The solution: Before some time i changed the netbooks energy saving mode. It reduces the CPU power if traffic is low. But the reduced power seems not to be enough for SL, sometimes. So the system toggles between low and high load and this seemed to produce the massive phase glitches. Now i choosed "maximum power" mode (QRO! :-) )and get a nice and stable trace, even in the 6000 window. The trace looks "perfect" in 600 of course.

So i hope to be able to produce a well readable signal in my 11th experiment that will be in April.

73, Stefan/DK7FC




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