Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.10]) by air-dd06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD064-86ae4d7e464013a; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:45:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 516453800028E; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PzAtE-0006Zg-6u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:45:04 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PzAtD-0006ZX-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:45:03 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzAtC-0002FT-9L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:45:03 +0000 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2EGj0d9026696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:45:00 +0100 Received: from [147.142.8.160] (vpn508-160.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.160]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p2EGiwus027788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:44:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4D7E460B.9010203@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:44:59 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20213.4bee0777.3aad274e@aol.com> <4D7BE035.2050107@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4D7CBC8D.7040809@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC on 137715 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050008030605000206060509" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4d7e463d43b7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050008030605000206060509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p2EGj0d9026696 Hi Tony, Yes, sure! Its all fun but a real CW group would be fine. Maybe we=20 should ask here who would join in in that group? :-) I still have to improve my RX and the TX setup. But i will hurry :-) The= =20 summer QRN will be compensated by QRO, its so easy ;-) Looking forward to the cu agn.. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 14.03.2011 14:41, schrieb HB9ASB: > Hello Stefan > yes, would be nice to make a CW QSO. I like the idea of a CW LF group.= =20 > May be we could also schedule an activity day once a month? Beaconing=20 > is fun, no doubt, also the observation of the different grabbers. I=20 > find them very useful and I have already learned a lot about LF=20 > propagation. But all that cannot replace real QSO's. > 73 de Toni > > 2011/3/13 Stefan Sch=E4fer > > > Tony, LF, > > I would like to try CW with you. Your signal was very strong here > too. For CW i have to be on the institute and i still have no key > there. But i will arrange all that soon. Maybe we can set up a CW > LF group on 137, that would be a fine proect :-) > > Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 13.03.2011 09:07, schrieb HB9ASB: >> They always come back, dear Stefan! >> Your signal was quite strong here, perfectly audible. And this >> with only 40W! >> I was using my Inverted L, 12m high and 40m long. The same >> antenna I'm using for 160&80. TX power was 1kW, antenna current >> not measured. Thank you for the nice QSO >> 73 de Toni, HB9ASB >> >> 2011/3/12 Stefan Sch=E4fer > > >> >> Thank you Nicolas, Tony and Markus! >> >> Yes, today i have resonated my new "office antenna" with a >> suitable coil. >> >> Some data about the system: >> >> Wire about 90 long and 25m (average) up. The overall losses >> seem to be 10 Ohm although the coil is just out of 0.75 sq mm >> loudspeaker cable. The system is exactly resonated and >> matched to 50 Ohm. So i get 2 A antenna current at about 40 W= :-) >> Markus dis some field strength measurements and we estimated >> an antenna efficiency of about 1%. >> >> The todays tests and QSOs were done with 40 W TX power out of >> a 12V class E PA. >> >> It is all a very loose construction in the shack, just for >> testing. I will make a better coil. Currently i am using my >> DDS VFO at 137.715 kHz with a DFCW shift of 1 Hz. >> >> I can remote control the whole TX! So i do not have to stay >> all the time in the institute but can do QSOs from anywhere >> where i find a internet connection :-) I just can't change >> the frequency but i am working on a TX converter and then use >> SpecLab for TXing. Currently i am using Rik's QRS programm >> which works excellent! >> >> The resonated antenna is lifting the grabber RX signal by 20 >> dB without affecting the SNR as it seems. I will check if the >> TX antenna is rather suitable as a RX antenna as well. >> >> Currently i can see S57A answering on my call. I can see it >> on OE3GHBs grabber but not on mine :-( Hopefully conds will >> become better in the late evening... >> >> Tnx to DF6NM for the first and HB9ASB for the second QSO on >> this antenna! HB9ASB is my first contact on 137 kHz in HB9, >> mni tnx!! :-) >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> PS: Now you are all on VLF and i am coming back to LF. Isn't >> it funny? :-) >> >> >> >> Am 12.03.2011 20:45, schrieb F4DTL@aol.com: >> >>> Nice signal here Stefan... >>> *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP >>> RX : Icom IC7400 >>> Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010 >>> >>> http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/* >> >> > --------------050008030605000206060509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tony,

Yes, sure! Its all fun but a real CW group would be fine. Maybe we should ask here who would join in in that group? :-)
I still have to improve my RX and the TX setup. But i will hurry :-) The summer QRN will be compensated by QRO, its so easy ;-)

Looking forward to the cu agn..

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 14.03.2011 14:41, schrieb HB9ASB:
Hello Stefan
yes, would be nice to make a CW QSO. I like the idea of a CW LF group. May be we could also schedule an activity day once a month? Beaconing is fun, no doubt, also the observation of the different grabbers. I find them very useful and I have already learned a lot about LF propagation. But all that cannot replace real QSO's.
73 de Toni 

2011/3/13 Stefan Schäfer <schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
Tony, LF,

I would like to try CW with you. Your signal was very strong here too. For CW i have to be on the institute and i still have no key there. But i will arrange all that soon. Maybe we can set up a CW LF group on 137, that would be a fine proect :-)

Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 13.03.2011 09:07, schrieb HB9ASB:
They always come back, dear Stefan!
Your signal was quite strong here, perfectly audible. And this with only 40W!
I was using my Inverted L, 12m high and 40m long. The same antenna I'm using for 160&80. TX power was 1kW, antenna current not measured. Thank you for the nice QSO
73 de Toni, HB9ASB

2011/3/12 Stefan Schäfer <schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
Thank you Nicolas, Tony and Markus!

Yes, today i have resonated my new "office antenna" with a suitable coil.

Some data about the system:

Wire about 90 long and 25m (average) up. The overall losses seem to be 10 Ohm although the coil is just out of 0.75 sq mm loudspeaker cable. The system is exactly resonated and matched to 50 Ohm. So i get 2 A antenna current at about 40 W :-)
Markus dis some field strength measurements and we estimated an antenna efficiency of about 1%.

The todays tests and QSOs were done with 40 W TX power out of a 12V class E PA.

It is all a very loose construction in the shack, just for testing. I will make a better coil. Currently i am using my DDS VFO at 137.715 kHz with a DFCW shift of 1 Hz.

I can remote control the whole TX! So i do not have to stay all the time in the institute but can do QSOs from anywhere where i find a internet connection :-) I just can't change the frequency but i am working on a TX converter and then use SpecLab for TXing. Currently i am using Rik's QRS programm which works excellent!

The resonated antenna is lifting the grabber RX signal by 20 dB without affecting the SNR as it seems. I will check if the TX antenna is rather suitable as a RX antenna as well.

Currently i can see S57A answering on my call. I can see it on OE3GHBs grabber but not on mine :-( Hopefully conds will become better in the late evening...

Tnx to DF6NM for the first and HB9ASB for the second QSO on this antenna! HB9ASB is my first contact on 137 kHz in HB9, mni tnx!! :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: Now you are all on VLF and i am coming back to LF. Isn't it funny? :-)



Am 12.03.2011 20:45, schrieb F4DTL@aol.com:
Nice signal here Stefan...
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP
RX : Icom IC7400
Ant: Wellbrook LFL 1010

http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/


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