Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.73]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB012-a0784d7b90d3359; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:27:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 810AD380000AA; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PyQhB-0002ft-9j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PyQh6-0002fk-3r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:28 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PyQh4-0000XT-AU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:28 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlQAAN8ee01Olmmh/2dsb2JhbAAMmGoOiHTFToViBIF0jkY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,307,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="493492659" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([78.150.105.161]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2011 15:25:18 +0000 Message-ID: <4D7B905D.2030103@talktalk.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:17 +0000 From: "qrss@talktalk.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006301cbe00d$762f0220$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001501cbe091$863ebf50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <5DA936C746C7432AA6E833B9CACE239F@AGB> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces O/T sorry Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090008010900070006020108" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=CELL_PHONE_BOOST,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60494d7b90d06230 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------090008010900070006020108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gary, Graham (Billy) LF No very radio that, I prefer Luke 14:28, (and it's not nail him to a torture stake) Eddie On 12/03/2011 15:09, Gary - G4WGT wrote: > Graham, LF, > > It looks pretty close to me, are you some kind of "book worm" > finding/knowing these quotes ?? Hi. > > 73, Gary - G4WGT. > > On 12 March 2011 11:47, Graham > wrote: > > > > Acts 20:35 may be applicable in this case ? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mal hamilton" > > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:43 AM > To: > > Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces > > > Yes Markus > But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months to observe > a signal at > rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time is QRS 60 and > preferably > Faster. > We need the transmitting stations to increase power ie more > ERP then there > would be no need for uH bandwidths and year long dashes hi > de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Markus Vester" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces > > > Dear Mal, > > with all due respect, I very much disagree here. > > Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the right time and > within a milliHz > of a confirmed and correctly calibrated frequency, I have > hardly a doubt > about the validity of the reception. Even more so if the > transmission can > > be > > verified by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another > location. > > It seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent > sensitivity at VLF. It > would be fantastic if you could augment that with a > stable, properly > calibrated, and narrowband reception system. SpecLab has > made that so easy > now - throw out the wildly drifting "receiver", connect > your antenna > directly to the soundcard instead, lock to one of your MSK > neighbours (GBZ > or GQD), and your in the game. > > Best regards, > Markus (DF6NM) > > > From: mal hamilton > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: VLF traces > > > I can see a couple of vy weak traces around 8970 but this > is no guarantee > who it might be because there is no ID. Frequency alone is > not a VALID > report- it could be anything. > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > --------------090008010900070006020108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gary, Graham (Billy) LF

No very radio that, I prefer Luke 14:28, (and it's not nail him to a torture stake)

Eddie

On 12/03/2011 15:09, Gary - G4WGT wrote:
Graham, LF,

It looks pretty close to me, are you some kind of "book worm" finding/knowing these quotes ?? Hi.

73, Gary - G4WGT.

On 12 March 2011 11:47, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


Acts 20:35   may  be  applicable  in this case ?

--------------------------------------------------
From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:43 AM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces


Yes Markus
But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months to observe a signal at
rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time is QRS 60 and preferably
Faster.
We need the transmitting stations to increase power ie more ERP then there
would be no need for uH bandwidths and year long dashes hi
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces


Dear Mal,

with all due respect, I very much disagree here.

Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the right time and within a milliHz
of a confirmed and correctly calibrated frequency, I have hardly a doubt
about the validity of the reception. Even more so if the transmission can
be
verified by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another location.

It seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent sensitivity at VLF. It
would be fantastic if you could augment that with a stable, properly
calibrated, and narrowband reception system. SpecLab has made that so easy
now - throw out the wildly drifting "receiver", connect your antenna
directly to the soundcard instead, lock to one of your MSK neighbours (GBZ
or GQD), and your in the game.

Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)


From: mal hamilton
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: VLF traces


I can see a couple of vy weak traces around 8970 but this is no guarantee
who it might be because there is no ID. Frequency alone is not a VALID
report- it could be anything.
G3KEV











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