Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.88]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC044-a9324d7923db277; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:17:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0C2A6380000AD; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PxlM2-0008By-OV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PxlM2-0008Bp-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PxlM1-0007k6-7x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:16:58 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2AJGuvH000606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:16:56 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2AJFtql005336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:15:55 +0100 Received: from [147.142.8.69] (vpn508-069.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.69]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p2AJFrtu018244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:15:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4D792378.1080003@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:16:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4D78C721.6000207@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <6ED4F98283E14746AB25D9EDFB280F83@ns94d01ae4d850> In-Reply-To: <6ED4F98283E14746AB25D9EDFB280F83@ns94d01ae4d850> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: GRABBER Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040504030009020407070606" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60584d7923d914b8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------040504030009020407070606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p2AJGuvH000606 Hello Henny, Wow, so the signal could be more than 10 dB stronger. When making QRO it= =20 is important to have the antenna resonated! Reactive power is not a good= =20 idea for some audio amp circuits. Looking forward to your signal :-) 73, Stefan Am 10.03.2011 16:29, schrieb henny van elst: > Hi Stefan,LF > I have a poweramp.with two times 650Watts,but I am very careful with=20 > the power,now i have 225mA antenne curent with a amplifire two times=20 > 40 watts,so i worked on it, > henny pa3cpm > 73's > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Stefan Sch=E4fer > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: GRABBER > > Hello Henny, Uwe, VLF, > > Ah, you've already seen it ;-) > I just wanted to post that i have splitted my 60000 window. Now > the range arround 8970.000 +- 4 uHz and 8970.020...8970.025 is > visible. > Since it has stored the last 10 days or so in the buffer, DJ8WX's > transmission of last week is now visible in 47 uHz as well. > > Uwe, what is the exact frequency on which you are transmitting? > What is the original reference frequency and what is the divider > ratio? > > May there be a conflict with Hennys transmission? Now we are in a > range where it is important to know the frequency to a uHz! If i > look at Victor's spectrogram, it looks Henny is slightly below > 8970.022 Hz, maybe 0.2 mHz. But this may be not enough to make out > the difference (?) Oh, i just looked at the spectrogram and see a > faint trace at 8970.0217 Hz. Is it you, Henny? It's still to much > guesswork but a first step on the way to a proper ID. 3 dB QRO > would be a good way to check that :-) > > > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 10.03.2011 13:11, schrieb henny van elst: >> Hi Stefan, >> tu for the 60000grabber, >> i will keep the tx on, >> henny pa3cpm >> best 73's to All. > --------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 10.0.1204 / Virusdatabase: 1497/3495 - datum van uitgifte: > 03/09/11 > --------------040504030009020407070606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Henny,

Wow, so the signal could be more than 10 dB stronger. When making QRO it is important to have the antenna resonated! Reactive power is not a good idea for some audio amp circuits.

Looking forward to your signal :-)

73, Stefan

Am 10.03.2011 16:29, schrieb henny van elst:
Hi Stefan,LF
I have a poweramp.with two times 650Watts,but I am very careful with the power,now i have 225mA antenne curent with a amplifire two times 40 watts,so i worked on it,
henny pa3cpm
73's
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: LF: GRABBER

Hello Henny, Uwe, VLF,

Ah, you've already seen it ;-)
I just wanted to post that i have splitted my 60000 window. Now the range arround 8970.000 +- 4 uHz and 8970.020...8970.025 is visible.
Since it has stored the last 10 days or so in the buffer, DJ8WX's transmission of last week is now visible in 47 uHz as well.

Uwe, what is the exact frequency on which you are transmitting? What is the original reference frequency and what is the divider ratio?

May there be a conflict with Hennys transmission? Now we are in a range where it is important to know the frequency to a uHz! If i look at Victor's spectrogram, it looks Henny is slightly below 8970.022 Hz, maybe 0.2 mHz. But this may be not enough to make out the difference (?) Oh, i just looked at the spectrogram and see a faint trace at 8970.0217 Hz. Is it you, Henny? It's still to much guesswork but a first step on the way to a proper ID. 3 dB QRO would be a good way to check that :-)



73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 10.03.2011 13:11, schrieb henny van elst:
Hi Stefan,
 
tu for the 60000grabber,
i will keep the tx on,
henny pa3cpm
best 73's to All.

Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 10.0.1204 / Virusdatabase: 1497/3495 - datum van uitgifte: 03/09/11

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