Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.180.7]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-86954d6fe1a0206; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:44:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 447EC38000090; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PvDV5-0005qB-Cn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:43:47 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PvDV4-0005q2-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:43:46 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PvDV2-000257-Pp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:43:46 +0000 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p23IhhYb002184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:43:44 +0100 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p23Ihhc7026965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:43:43 +0100 Received: from [147.142.8.122] (vpn508-122.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de [147.142.8.122]) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p23IhfsM009268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:43:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4D6FE168.4000305@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:43:52 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3b90ebeb91e44829a9f470214c4894a6@kabelmail.de> <8CDA7E3261FEBE7-1364-E0A6@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDA7E3261FEBE7-1364-E0A6@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Who is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030004050106090404070304" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4074d6fe19c5dd0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------030004050106090404070304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p23IhhYb002184 Uwe, Markus, VLF, Am 03.03.2011 18:54, schrieb Markus Vester: > Regarding the garden work - just buy a pair of gloves ;-) > 73 de Markus (DF6NM) Yes, maybe these:=20 http://de.farnell.com/knipex/98-65-40/elektriker-handschuhe-vde-1000v/dp/9= 168575=20 and better a pair of these too:=20 http://www.elsic.de/pages_de/sicherheitsgeraete/deltec_arbeitsschutz_psa/d= eltec-psa-isolierstiefel.html =20 ;-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Verschickt: Do., 3. Mrz. 2011, 16:19 > Thema: Re: LF: Who is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz?? > > Hi all, > its no longer a secret : > Stefan and Markus found a carrier at 8970,022Hz on Stefans and=20 > Gerhards grabber and I had to confess that its origin is my QTH=20 > because the TX was switched on at 1740UTC yesterday and that matches=20 > the visibility of the carrier on Gerhards grabber. > My aerial: pse see > http://dj8wx-dl.de/hompage500kHz/TX%20equipment.htm > second last pic on the site. The 23m long wire has been lengthened by=20 > an other 20m. > The radiasls have a overall length of 500m. > I tried a measuring of the current between the footpoint of the=20 > matching coils and the radials: > Sri, but the meter doesnt show more than 200mA and its far > than that. > The TX bumps 7,5A at 284Vpp (753Wrms) into the field coil of 134uH (Z=20 > 7,5 Ohm). > The diameter of the circuit single layer winding coils: on average 60cm. > inductivity: 245mH. > The generator is a homebrew BPU lf-exciter with the possibility of all= =20 > usual kinds of modulations. > The class E PA makes 2,4kWrms on NF. I could get 1700Wrms out of this=20 > (misused) disco PA on 9kHz. > When I did so the consequence was: One couldnt touch any garden hand=20 > tools or other things longer than 50cm. > Txing with 750W: My XYL doesnt shriek any more when working in the=20 > garden and touching p.e. the barrow. > Best regards > Uwe/dj8wx still txing a carrier on 8970,022Hz. In some days Ill send=20 > in qrs6000. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: 02.03.2011 16:20 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: Who is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz?? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > VLF, > > Someone is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz, visible in my "DFCW-6000" window > and visible at OE3GHB! It is neither Markus nor Ossi nor Gerhard nor me, > so who is it??? :-) > Frequency is very accurate over time! > > On 8969.97 i am doing a local test so pse don't wonder. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------030004050106090404070304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id p23IhhYb002184 Uwe, Markus, VLF,

Am 03.03.2011 18:54, schrieb Markus Vester:
Regarding the garden work - just buy a pair of glo= ves ;-)
=C2=A0
73 de Markus (DF6NM)


Yes, maybe these: http://de.farnell.com/k= nipex/98-65-40/elektriker-handschuhe-vde-1000v/dp/9168575
and better a pair of these too: = http://www.elsic.de/pages_de/sicherheitsgeraete/deltec_arbeitsschutz_psa/d= eltec-psa-isolierstiefel.html=C2=A0 ;-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC






=C2=A0
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Do., 3. Mrz. 2011, 16:19
Thema: Re: LF: Who is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz??

Hi all,
=C2=A0
its no longer a secret :
Stefan and Markus found a carrier at 8970,022Hz on Stefans and Gerhards grabber and I had to confess that its origin is my QTH because the TX was switched on at 1740UTC yesterday and that matches the visibility of the carrier on Gerhards grabber.
=C2=A0
My aerial: pse see
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
second last pic on the site. The 23m long wire has been lengthened by an other 20m.
The radiasls have a overall length of=C2=A0 500m.
=C2=A0
I tried a measuring of the current between=C2=A0 the footpoint of the matching coils and the radials:<= /div>
Sri, but the meter doesnt show more than 200mA and its far > than that.
=C2=A0
The TX bumps 7,5A at 284Vpp (753Wrms) into the field coil of 134uH (Z 7,5 Ohm).
=C2=A0
The diameter of the circuit single layer winding coils: on average 60cm.
inductivity: 245mH.
=C2=A0
The generator is a homebrew BPU lf-exciter with the possibility of all usual kinds of modulations.
=C2=A0
The class E PA makes 2,4kWrms on NF. I could get 1700Wrms out of this (misused) disco PA on 9kHz.
When I did so the consequence was:=C2=A0 One couldnt touch an= y garden hand tools or other things longer than 50cm.
Txing with 750W: My XYL doesnt shriek any more when working in the garden and touching p.e. the barrow.
=C2=A0
Best regards
Uwe/dj8wx still txing a carrier on 8970,022Hz. In some days Ill send in qrs6000.
=C2=A0


Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Gesendet: 02.03.2011 16:20
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: LF: Who is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz??

VLF,

Someone is transmitting on 8970.022 Hz, visible in my "DFCW-6000" window
and visible at OE3GHB! It is neither Markus nor Ossi nor Gerhard nor me,
so who is it??? :-)
Frequency is very accurate over time!

On 8969.97 i am doing a local test so pse don't wonder.

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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