Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.205]) by air-db08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB083-864a4d83be823a1; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:20:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B4C07380000AA; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Q0g8s-0005d9-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:19:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Q0g8r-0005d0-MA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:19:25 +0000 Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0g8p-00066r-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:19:25 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.183] by nm8.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 20:19:18 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.172] by tm14.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 20:19:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 20:19:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 95098.85938.bm@omp1013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 70918 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2011 20:19:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=xS8fyyxREKXXiTvKosfaE0qSnspjTlo/8N8KLvNTSN1f9ubpxVsEI1318lA1lUUq3cPXfRlLYzI/cYN3rTd+mJ9cBkJs3iE1Za+EMn8ldBoR9xOYQZg333Cl3uCfJRcPj1W/tZ+zf50uvbGOjL9rYgoOesAAxt7iB8jgpL+YagQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1300479557; bh=uLfOQy7XWqdEPpm6w5oFzNXIC1dK6ubHFXImOKk9tao=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Nd05m/MEXC8d1TsMzhzMrVwkd4dvKRoyNeJMlFKY7sngeGq3/zeneZaI5cIV2SvEI9Z6wpny3Pd8c5k/eLzWFCC4KlJ8ajWucehWVSN9PkO/e8faG4mqBsBAynrn5Y8Kb8k9fI7j2nyj/pnp6d6/ptDMFPAGj50AY1oSGznouXs= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.176.86.80 with login) by smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2011 20:19:17 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: 1Ql5KNcVM1ne5FoX8wVtOfSn3uoRS2LwtoHz7_1Tv2iiLhE J71EKMUD8Xovrs9PCBstBoq9yRoeYNrH7H4XpYqmLKlPZEIscBDmsC.Nx5jJ f7orwbb1LcsFBQK8nwiCGzcvm3wKRSGLRsgT3YgsTG2qsPL6HwWA7ovm2TRw c4qFbMKL8x1N_vaEOO026rPIANxRGEjjGNL.QrwslNVnnXXrVLLuhqsWvJNN f_rptCWtHUFHKr7dhfN54YJa6PxFaIXd3EMgZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0EB66595161541EA835BB1477D755634@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <59F87B1BA5D04A2F98902CF94C38DB30@JimPC> <000e01cbe589$d2324060$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <72DDC8B018CB4996B1E7BB253B94C771@JimPC> <004101cbe5a1$68069bb0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <004101cbe5a1$68069bb0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:19:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Loop TX antennas at VLF? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d003.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cd4d83be802b0c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Mal, LF Group, You wrote: ....each individual QTH will be > different. In a discussion like this, one has to assume a level playing > field. > Discuss each antenna in the ideal environment THEN consider the X factor > etc etc etc etc etc etc etc... That was rather the point - things would be so much simpler if we could erect our antennas on level playing fields ;-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU