Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.73]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME094-8bc34d7b9cd26a; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:18:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D8489380000D6; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PyRVO-0003E6-U4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PyRVN-0003Dx-CP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:25 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PyRVL-0001TW-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:25 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhEBANIqe01Ok8Z5/2dsb2JhbACVAYN0Do0/d796hWIEgXSORg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,308,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="346444322" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.198.121]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2011 16:17:16 +0000 Message-ID: <00d801cbe0d0$f0a67010$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <006301cbe00d$762f0220$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001501cbe091$863ebf50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <5DA936C746C7432AA6E833B9CACE239F@AGB> <4D7B905D.2030103@talktalk.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces O/T sorry Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D5_01CBE0D0.F0471200" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=CELL_PHONE_BOOST,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1494d7b9cd07a10 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01CBE0D0.F0471200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of you would believe anything !!!!!!!!!!!!! I expect you go every= Sunday and Wednesdays for Confession Another version is nailed to the PLUS sign for those that cannot read ----- Original Message -----=20 From: qrss@talktalk.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces O/T sorry Hi Gary, Graham (Billy) LF No very radio that, I prefer Luke 14:28, (and it's not nail him to= a torture stake) Eddie On 12/03/2011 15:09, Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20 Graham, LF,=20 It looks pretty close to me, are you some kind of "book worm" find= ing/knowing these quotes ?? Hi. 73, Gary - G4WGT. On 12 March 2011 11:47, Graham wrote: Acts 20:35 may be applicable in this case ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces Yes Markus But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months to observe= a signal at rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time is QRS 60 and= preferably Faster. We need the transmitting stations to increase power ie more ER= P then there would be no need for uH bandwidths and year long dashes hi de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Vester" To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces Dear Mal, with all due respect, I very much disagree here. Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the right time and wi= thin a milliHz of a confirmed and correctly calibrated frequency, I have ha= rdly a doubt about the validity of the reception. Even more so if the tra= nsmission can be verified by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another lo= cation. It seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent sensitiv= ity at VLF. It would be fantastic if you could augment that with a stable,= properly calibrated, and narrowband reception system. SpecLab has mad= e that so easy now - throw out the wildly drifting "receiver", connect your= antenna directly to the soundcard instead, lock to one of your MSK= neighbours (GBZ or GQD), and your in the game. Best regards, Markus (DF6NM) From: mal hamilton Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM To: rsgb Subject: LF: VLF traces I can see a couple of vy weak traces around 8970 but this is= no guarantee who it might be because there is no ID. Frequency alone is= not a VALID report- it could be anything. G3KEV ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01CBE0D0.F0471200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some of you would believe anything !!!!!!!!!!!= !! I expect=20 you go every Sunday and Wednesdays for Confession
Another version is nailed to the PLUS sign for= those that=20 cannot read
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 201= 1 3:25=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF traces= O/T=20 sorry

Hi Gary, Graham (Billy) LF

No very radio that,= I prefer=20 Luke 14:28, (and it's not nail him to a torture stake)

Eddie<= BR>
On=20 12/03/2011 15:09, Gary - G4WGT wrote:=20
Graham, LF,=20

It looks pretty close to me, are you some kind of "book worm"= =20 finding/knowing these quotes ?? Hi.

73, Gary - G4WGT.

On 12 March 2011 11:47, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
<= BR>
Acts=20 20:35   may  be  applicable  in this case=20 ?

--------------------------------------------------
F= rom: "mal=20 hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net><= BR>Sent: Saturday,=20 March 12, 2011 8:43 AM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject:=20 Re: LF: VLF traces


Yes=20 Markus
But I do not intend to wait hours, weeks and months= to observe=20 a signal at
rediculous narrow bandwidths. My limit of time= is QRS 60=20 and preferably
Faster.
We need the transmitting stations= to=20 increase power ie more ERP then there
would be no need for= uH=20 bandwidths and year long dashes hi
de mal/g3kev

----= - Original=20 Message -----
From: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent:= =20 Friday, March 11, 2011 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF=20 traces


Dear=20 Mal,

with all due respect, I very much disagree=20 here.

Whenever I see a clear trace appear at the righ= t time and=20 within a milliHz
of a confirmed and correctly calibrated= frequency,=20 I have hardly a doubt
about the validity of the reception= . Even=20 more so if the transmission can
be
verified=20 by comparison to a calibrated grabber in another location.
It=20 seems that the G3KEV antenna does have excellent sensitivity= at VLF.=20 It
would be fantastic if you could augment that with a st= able,=20 properly
calibrated, and narrowband reception system. Spe= cLab has=20 made that so easy
now - throw out the wildly drifting "re= ceiver",=20 connect your antenna
directly to the soundcard instead,= lock to one=20 of your MSK neighbours (GBZ
or GQD), and your in the=20 game.

Best regards,
Markus (DF6NM)


From= : mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:57 PM
To:=20 rsgb
Subject: LF: VLF traces


I can see a coupl= e of vy=20 weak traces around 8970 but this is no guarantee
who it= might be=20 because there is no ID. Frequency alone is not a VALID
re= port- it=20 could be=20 anything.
G3KEV











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