Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.143]) by air-md04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD042-8b814d4c3949223; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:37:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 179E43800018A; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PlPZw-0005au-LJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:36:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PlPZv-0005al-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:36:15 +0000 Received: from filter02.i-online.fr ([195.200.78.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PlPZu-0001Fu-5E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:36:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by filter02.i-online.fr (IceWarp 10.0.7 (2010-02-10)) with ESMTP (SSL) id NTN80152 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:35:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 19359 invoked by uid 507); 4 Feb 2011 18:35:54 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2011 18:35:54 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) From: John Rabson In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:36:04 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: LF: Earth-mode or not earth-mode Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608f4d4c39476f31 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Warren, The transmit signal was coupled inductively into the rail using a standard= cave radio resonant loop. The signal was recovered at the receiving end= using a similar loop. If I recall correctly, the signal was starting to drop off noticeably at= 1.6 km. The tests were done in an area where there is substantial interf= erence from LORAN C, so it may have been signal-to-QRM rather than signal= -to-QRN that set the maximum range. Also, the receiving operator complained that walking a good mile on railwa= y ballast* was making his feet hurt, and he would have to walk the mile ba= ck to get out of the cutting. =20 *Note that it is not wise to walk on the sleepers (railroad ties?) as it= is all too easy to lose your footing if they are wet or greasy. I have= been there! 73 John F5VLF G3PAI On 4 Feb 2011, at 16:22CET, Warren Ziegler wrote: > John, > If this was conduction through the rail, why was it limited to 1.6kM? > Was this the length of unbroken track? >=20 > --=20 > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1