Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj08.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.144]) by air-me09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME091-8bc04d5bad71fe; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:56:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 87767380000D9; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ppf2v-0004rd-3x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:55:45 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ppf2u-0004rU-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:55:44 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ppf2r-0006rO-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:55:44 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527F57B8048 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:55:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.13]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7E031E708 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:55:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N3.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.13]) with mapi; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:55:32 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:55:31 +0100 Thread-Topic: LF: TA TONITE Thread-Index: AcvNrckutz7OcQmiTSKlukqUfKeCQQAGTnsq Message-ID: References: <006301cbcd3a$cd0364a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <009101cbcd4f$81d98da0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <70ED8F4523F743C399A3F88C9F870D62@JimPC>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: TA TONITE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C88B050FEBAICTSSEXC2CAlu_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d0d4d5bad70788e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C88B050FEBAICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Toni, group, I measured the HE3OM signal 41dB down on DCF39. Distances to HE3OM (504km) and DCF39 (515km) are almost identical. This might give the US stations a clue what signal strength they can expec= t from HE3OM and what QRSS speed Tony could use to be copied. 73, Rik ON7YD ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens HB9ASB [hb9asb@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 16 februari 2011 8:44 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: TA TONITE Dear Jim, Mal and LF Group Unfortunately the tower is not nearby my house and I can't leave the stati= on running unattended. And the nights I can spend in Sottens are limited= by my health and my wife, hi. So there is no trial before, I have just ne= xt Friday night. If I take a look at the reports we got in the past two weeks from stations= 2000-3000km away (always good audible), it should be possible to span 600= 0km using QRSS10. On the receiving side, we may be able to see stations let's say with QRSS6= 0. This would mean, that we could make only one or two QSO's. May be it's= better to try Crossband: we transmit in QRSS10 and listen on 80m. This wo= uld give more stations the opportunity to contact us. However, if there is= a station from the East Coast we copy in QRSS10 it would get the priority= . What do you think about this approach? 73 de Toni 2011/2/15 James Moritz > Dear Toni, LF Group, HE3OM has the advantage of a much stronger TX signal than most Eu stations= , so I guess you have a good chance of being copied in NA on Friday night,= unless the propagation is very poor. But as you will have seen from the= activity last weekend, forward planning is always a good thing, especiall= y where a single QSO takes hours. If possible, I would suggest transmittin= g some beacon signals from HE3OM between now and Friday, so that North Ame= rican stations can get a good idea what QRSS speed can be copied from your= station. Also, try to receive any W/VE beacons that might be running, so= that you also know what the requirement will be in the other direction.= Finally, I have usually found reception of US stations is best just befor= e dawn here, so make sure you are not going to be busy on Saturday! Good luck, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C88B050FEBAICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Toni, group,
 
I measured the HE3OM signa= l 41dB down on DCF39.
Distances to HE3OM (504km) and = DCF39 (515km) are almost identical.
This might give the US stations a cl= ue what signal strength they can expect from HE3OM and what QRSS speed Ton= y could use to be copied.
 
73, Rik  ON7YD
 
 
Van: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens HB9ASB= [hb9asb@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 16 februari 2011 8:44
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: TA TONITE

Dear Jim, Mal and LF Group

Unfortunately the tower is not nearby my house and I can't leave the stati= on running unattended. And the nights I can spend in Sottens are limited= by my health and my wife, hi. So there is no trial before, I have just ne= xt Friday night.
If I take a look at the reports we got in the past two weeks from stations= 2000-3000km away (always good audible), it should be possible to span 600= 0km using QRSS10.
On the receiving side, we may be able to see stations let's say with QRSS6= 0. This would mean, that we could make only one or two QSO's. May be it's= better to try Crossband: we transmit in QRSS10 and listen on 80m. This wo= uld give more stations the opportunity to contact us. However, if there is a station from the East Coast we copy= in QRSS10 it would get the priority.
What do you think about this approach?

73 de Toni

2011/2/15 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com= >
Dear Toni, LF Group,

HE3OM has the advantage of a much stronger TX signal than most Eu stations= , so I guess you have a good chance of being copied in NA on Friday night,= unless the propagation is very poor. But as you will have seen from the= activity last weekend, forward planning is always a good thing, especially where a single QSO takes hours. If pos= sible, I would suggest transmitting some beacon signals from HE3OM between= now and Friday, so that North American stations can get a good idea what= QRSS speed can be copied from your station. Also, try to receive any W/VE beacons that might be running, so= that you also know what the requirement will be in the other direction.= Finally, I have usually found reception of US stations is best just befor= e dawn here, so make sure you are not going to be busy on Saturday!

Good luck,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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