Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.11]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA084-b5334d57edca371; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E141E380000C1; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pod8l-0000Ky-Lp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:41:31 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pod8l-0000Kp-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:41:31 +0000 Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pod8j-0004FI-Bn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:41:31 +0000 Received: by iyh42 with SMTP id 42so3997793iyh.16 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:41:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mWFLGTBxPvMiMiyFpsOLLS6h+7A5QRNfY+GrJPhZFW0=; b=sgLiQyPtpi3dujOIAwu178jrQiSOt38oR36u5oRm4koYc4V/hw8IWh35eiym0K2RXT T24V8tw7Wouh2XiJUxNhrbUk7/rVcW9D10ZXMbazX3SGwYznWTDbRLhDzk7FOAYcuHdf gHVrs1BJvbsxhoewScb0G5/7b+ilmw8Y6eKDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cDBs4/W5wVjYcqO2iRw6IVCFVqROmMIAs94gEIhsiHIzphtIIvGg/ql+im5ehc1VNG xtdP54+MZM6evApxUotc60XTpOCchq4c09zb+NniMj/LqZrRsNDUUtnuzj/0TpI0bpJI jZPvkpPBY7WKnsfINRcC7j2nONvQ4kyWaCyy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.171.200 with SMTP id k8mr3575942icz.90.1297608082402; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.159.7 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:41:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <433CFC410770450186BB307A8AD28484@JimPC> References: <00c301cbcb04$b57989a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <00dd01cbcb0a$b7f1f4f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <00eb01cbcb0d$6a82ee10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <012001cbcb15$e63c14c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <433CFC410770450186BB307A8AD28484@JimPC> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:41:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: CQ WW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d014.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d400b4d57edc73122 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Jim, Thank you, it's very impressive to see the dynamic range that you can achieve. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Moritz wrote: > Dear Warren, Mal, LF Group, > > I took the opportunity of your sked to try simultaneous reception of the= Eu > / NA QRSS windows - really, I was hoping G3XDV would be transmitting as > well, since he is only about 11km from me and would be a good challenge= for > the receiver. I think it is possible by carefully adjusting the various > gains to reduce the "splatter" caused by such a local signal to allow th= e > copy of relatively DX signals within a few hertz. This didn't happen, bu= t I > was able to simultaneously receive WD2XGJ, G3KEV, PA0A, RA3AGC and DF6NM= . > The attachment shows signals from about 2245 - 0112utc; it is screen sho= ts > from two instances of SpecLab edited together, and the scroll rate was > increased at about 0000, which is why the time markers don't match up > perfectly. > > Concerning QSOs in QRSS with very long dot periods, I think this shows= how > it is most important to agree the format and the protocol for the QSO be= fore > starting. I think the generally accepted format goes something like: > > XGJ KEV K (for a sked, or CQ KEV K for a random QSO, repeat as necessary= ) > ...then... > KEV XGJ O K > XGJ KEV R O K > KEV XGJ R TU SK ...(end of QSO) > > It is probably best to decide from experience who is likely to be the we= aker > received signal, and for that station to make the initial calls, since= then > subsequent overs are most likely to succeed. If one station fails to > completely receive an over, they should repeat their previous over so th= at > the other station can repeat also. Some will insist that complete callsi= gns > should be used for the initial overs, but I think most agree on the > abbreviated calls, especially for a sked. Some people omit the "K" at th= e > end of an over, or substitute an "E", but I think this is a bad idea bec= ause > under marginal conditions it is harder to tell when the other station ha= s > stopped transmitting. > > Hope this is helpful - better luck next time! > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU