Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.90]) by air-md06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD061-8b884d68de62133; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:05:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 54285380000A9; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:05:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PtHwZ-000790-0h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:04:11 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PtHwY-00078r-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:04:10 +0000 Received: from mail-pv0-f171.google.com ([74.125.83.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PtHwW-0007Sp-Bs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:04:10 +0000 Received: by pva4 with SMTP id 4so443067pva.16 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 03:04:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dsv2La6jNTx6DhzuMQvpA5HtfbRT2MxpMs5fMuEVtdk=; b=hN8n7+0jbXZC7bbbwGBmnHEVuWvSLpBYCgVPIGgL2Aa+jyMOvWhoAC8LJTDmHgmybv ocuJ8ts1BOKIAUZrN910LU90GrUhxIFEWsg24OPbB90AkK26qpL7ReRNAdmccFA/Eylu yhSLOk5+fsoiS4K48AWqYeba4uthDUET9pQVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IR7RchO6J+xYzQKpsgC1YaMvqrROXi/uuyybFTC2jy84gUlyFQ0GocfSVmx2HxbqKZ HPseE/G9nEquCksw7f+MLSON1QMl1CLLt6Q38zVkYTelFYefPjkugIjGsDXWifBV/LCc ysCeMSJkdkmB+HSKBI0m5yxrCltSKR3nybjLs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.177.1 with SMTP id e1mr2505118wfp.269.1298718241684; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 03:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.201.2 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 03:04:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D68DB50.1138.3D425F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <4D68D656.11240.29D4BD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <4D68DB50.1138.3D425F@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:04:01 +0100 Message-ID: From: HB9ASB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5f688757bb5049d2d6744 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d284.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605a4d68de6015b8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd5f688757bb5049d2d6744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't worry, he will change it 73 de Toni 2011/2/26 Mike Dennison > Toni, > > Unfortunately, this will only be effective if you can get JA7NI to > alter his Argo to QRSS30 as well. His current setting is '90s slow > speed' which is about right for QRSS120. If you can't get the > receiver setting changed, you could get away with QRSS90. > > Good luck. > > 73 de Mike > ========== > > > > Thank you Mike > > we will try again tonight and JA7NI will switch to QRSS30. > > 73 de Toni > > > > 2011/2/26 Mike Dennison > > > > > Last night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA dawn.. > > > UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previously. See > > > attached. > > > > > > Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC's grabber which shows that > > > DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we could not compete with > > > HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on us. > > > > > > The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is not a > > > practical speed for real DX. There are long periods where the signal > > > is well above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign being > > > received. At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still been > > > viable and allowed a couple of full calls to be read. > > > > > > Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record on > > > 136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs > > > have available. > > > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > > ========== > > > > > > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > > > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If > > > you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you > > > should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you > > > cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. > > > > > > ---- File information ----------- > > > File: DX_at_RN3AGC.jpg > > > Date: 26 Feb 2011, 10:14 > > > Size: 16113 bytes. > > > Type: JPEG-image > > > > > > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > > > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If > > > you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you > > > should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you > > > cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. > > > > > > ---- File information ----------- > > > File: HE3OM_at_JA7NI.jpg > > > Date: 26 Feb 2011, 10:17 > > > Size: 38621 bytes. > > > Type: JPEG-image > > > > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd5f688757bb5049d2d6744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't worry, he will change it
73 de Toni

2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
Toni,

Unfortunately, this will only be effective if you can get JA7NI to
alter his Argo to QRSS30 as well. His current setting is '90s slow
speed' which is about right for QRSS120. If you can't get the
receiver setting changed, you could get away with QRSS90.

Good luck.

73 de Mike
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


> Thank you Mike
> we will try again tonight and JA7NI will switch to QRSS30.
> 73 de Toni
>
> 2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>
>
> > Last night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at= JA dawn..
> > UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previously. See > > attached.
> >
> > Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC's grabber which sho= ws that
> > DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we could not compete wit= h
> > HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on us.
> >
> > The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is not a
> > practical speed for real DX. There are long periods where the si= gnal
> > is well above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign bei= ng
> > received. At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still been=
> > viable and allowed a couple of full calls to be read.
> >
> > Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record= on
> > 136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs=
> > have available.
> >
> > Mike, G3XDV
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >
> > The following section of this message contains a file attachment=
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