Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.26]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME102-8bc54d654fbe26f; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:19:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6A5E2380000F8; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PsJIY-0005tN-CD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:50 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PsJIX-0005tE-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:49 +0000 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PsJIU-0003UE-SR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:49 +0000 Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so3878938iwr.16 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:18:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XN89FxZc4UHhux4Y1v58sp0fzXEVo/xm1xsDwAPejH8=; b=VOGTElbJwyGMYHGG4yM+gAGKi7CO/Wdtbc6hI25zy1TJLTP4O0468ccORRse+0xhOX cRNjYgD/bkkvKjsjR8kluHvHjp+uudpd7XZoyQIfESBORTaxIeu/W5M+oCVgSHdTVlrX LVpR/vcLQ3PvGk9O/meUHdqtd7u5g+5ReZFNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NjULC4xtgEuAMR2638v+7GBNfh0zxUyjNSShqqewXNw1CWUHogQcOyTL2NB2gP2QZo jeR1Tb3BfevAtBqsSQ6K31+ItXFkMOauNRa4B102t1OubmFKMgODMXphluHyX5pSQjCQ v7e+fbmnWVe32/D8j2H135uctJvbGDTXvmRQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.205 with SMTP id n13mr3432123iby.58.1298485120136; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.205.196 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:18:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <002f01cbd383$7eccab30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <000c01cbd350$da52b950$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9D12856ED1E349629330C4C88C74866B@Uwe> <002f01cbd383$7eccab30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045015a6354f49e049cf720ee X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m214.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601a4d654fbc2f16 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --005045015a6354f49e049cf720ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Real Radio Amateurs would just solder it and ignore the toxic fumes - its only a quick whiff of cyanide, and that tiny amount isn't going to kill you. 'JNT (still in the land of living) On 23 February 2011 18:00, mal hamilton wrote: > That is not the correct procedure. To avoid toxic fumes you scrape the > enamel off the wire then tin and solder. > Radio Amateurs know what to do but Appliance Operators will eventually > poison themselves. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Uwe Wensauer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:16 PM > Subject: LF: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire > > > > Enamel removing ist much easier done: > > Built a solder bubble with the irion and pierce through slowly the > bubble > > with the wire. The hot solder will melt the enamel > > > > The fume generated is toxic ! > > > > Same procedure also valuable for stranded wire (Litze). > > > > 73 > > Uwe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mal hamilton" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:57 PM > > Subject: LF: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire > > > > > > > Yes > > > You scrape the enamel from the area to be soldered to reveal the bare > > > copper > > > wire then solder in the normal way. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Rabson" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:23 AM > > > Subject: LF: Soldering enamelled copper wire > > > > > > > > > LF, > > > > > > I have a reel of such wire labelled as follows: > > > > > > "Wire copper enamelled > > > Part 1230983 0.71 mm 1/2 kg > > > Solder only in well ventilated area. Fumes are toxic" > > > > > > The manufacturer is stated to be Rowan Cable Products Ltd. I found > their > > > website but don't seem able to get into it to find out whether the > > > covering > > > of the wire is solderable and (if so) whether any special techniques > are > > > required. > > > > > > Can anyone advise, please? > > > > > > 73 > > > John F5VLF > > > > > > > > > > > > > --005045015a6354f49e049cf720ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Real Radio Amateurs would just solder it and ignore the toxic fumes= - its only a quick whiff=A0 of cyanide, and that tiny amount isn't go= ing to kill you.
=A0
'JNT (still in the land of living)


=A0
On 23 February 2011 18:00, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktal= k.net> wrote:
That is not the correct proced= ure. To avoid toxic fumes you scrape the
enamel off the wire then tin= and solder.
Radio Amateurs know what to do but Appliance Operators will eventually
= poison themselves.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Uwe= Wensauer" <uwe.wensauer@gm= x.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:16 PM
Subjec= t: LF: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire


> Enamel remo= ving ist much easier done:
> Built a solder bubble with the irion and =A0pierce through slowly the= bubble
> with the wire. The hot solder will melt the enamel
>=
> The fume generated is toxic !
>
> Same procedure also= valuable for stranded wire (Litze).
>
> 73
> Uwe
>
> ----- Original Message -----> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:57 PM
> Subject: LF: Re:= Soldering enamelled copper wire
>
>
> > Yes
>= > You scrape the enamel from the area to be soldered to reveal the bar= e
> > copper
> > wire then solder in the normal way.
>= > G3KEV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
>= > From: "John Rabson" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 20= 11 10:23 AM
> > Subject: LF: Soldering enamelled copper wire
&= gt; >
> >
> > LF,
> >
> > I have a reel of such= wire labelled as follows:
> >
> > "Wire copper ena= melled
> > Part 1230983 0.71 mm 1/2 kg
> > Solder only= in well ventilated area. Fumes are toxic"
> >
> > The manufacturer is stated to be Rowan Cable Produc= ts Ltd. =A0I found
their
> > website but don't seem able= to get into it to find out whether the
> > covering
> >= of the wire is solderable and (if so) =A0whether any special techniques are
> > required.
> >
> > Can anyone advise, pl= ease?
> >
> > 73
> > John F5VLF
> >> >
>
>



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