Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.143]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB063-86484d49f13e2e0; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:05:18 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BF7D138000099; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PkmgN-0005s8-0x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 00:04:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PkmgM-0005rz-Jo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 00:04:18 +0000 Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PkmgK-0000AK-Pk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 00:04:18 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.209] by nm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2011 00:04:11 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.166] by tm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2011 00:04:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2011 00:04:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 287374.17563.bm@omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 43849 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2011 00:04:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=W9yKuW54HU5ZoeFJjsiNmNZa3ZWVRrNhmh1SY63mljrCdGtjBg8SJLAP6zEOXce/Bm+eKDdx+tWJtDx2e/LfX39ycTf6K5wzOwR6IUuH5zKQZ2QmYQFpka+imoR9GmR1jCtS95izLRcbPC8cgWYCz2F7DzhenR4ecg4UVt5d4CM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1296691451; bh=4CmuPOGHcaCXYK0We+ivdokigFCv2GNW+IBh7DrKsoQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=rkye0Bx3hMddPy95dW5nSYsYjExTTUDikHH9kwTwt7gk9E73QWW1EhIN3r4RNxGs81ZokURyK45Ei1IMe0bHeRr0fK+gk1fv238jv8mEyRJ/DGJgIP8YQDX11Fe6MChwgrbOTSnZTj6L4F6majLcUwQIRxL3+6ITCRi0vMYVEZg= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@109.158.236.95 with login) by smtp820.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Feb 2011 00:04:07 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: M86EBmIVM1kDzQkrgEiQ5.JCQYHuWGSRG.TaGfwm1xApCiv TITq4kQ8CQ50y39dQnvY9EehbuqqEKxxLgeblw9GpKdjzMWxQf_IEUiVw93R pjItB6WGrCi5CbhDJ1nSKOxOSQfzvOR88RfAP5YUpdZPnFAvNJlzGQ.C6dGX jpM9.26DpM89O4YGvhKBpuQvpcGL5eqbdENvDv._RFvL5Nh9PtRlG31KQq_D 3nPsjlII6b.RtrXG3yn4SELldSHOjiqJQImxy X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4E418C8DF9E340AA865BD19515FC6207@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <0DF35BB8-9FC4-4A05-A9B9-675D74FEE669@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0DF35BB8-9FC4-4A05-A9B9-675D74FEE669@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:04:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: More earth-mode tests and a puzzle Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d008.1 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608f4d49f13c0aed X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Roger, What is the actual limiting factor on reception with the different antennas? I presume by "best results" you mean best SNR - but is the predominant noise the band QRN or local man-made stuff? Also, you mention that positioning of the loop was critical - in what way, and how was the loop oriented with respect to the TX source? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU