Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.180.9]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-8bbb4d57e29a1ed; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:54:34 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8861C380000AB; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PocOg-0007tN-Um for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:53:54 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PocOg-0007tE-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:53:54 +0000 Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PocOf-0003x1-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:53:54 +0000 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110213135347.PNBZ23441.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:53:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.33] (really [82.5.252.56]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20110213135346.NFMB28282.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.33]> for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:53:46 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:53:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4D57E264.24047.320135@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=mKDCYXYXIiPAbAoS700A:9 a=ioFzgbGO1fiWdFCeSlbxxwazDPoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Eu DX frequency Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094d57e2995ac1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none There was no =change= from 136.318kHz to 136.177kHz. The latter frequency was suggested as an alternative to fix a problem on a particular path, and most stations went along with it. Many grabbers are set up to receive both sub-bands, so either could be used for beacons. In the case of skeds, the two stations can use whatever frequency they like, provided they do not cause QRM to other users of the band. Anyone who has argued strongly in the past that grabbers could be used for cheating should perhaps use non-standard frequencies to avoid criticism of their own QSOs. Mike, G3XDV ==========