Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.145]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB091-85f54d59639d298; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 24A4638000115; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pp22L-00030j-8k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:16:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pp22K-00030a-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:16:32 +0000 Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp22K-00064S-Ha for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:16:32 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.181] by nm19.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 17:16:26 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.73] by tm12.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 17:16:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 17:16:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 371321.44046.bm@omp1034.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 84706 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2011 17:16:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1297703786; bh=nqTiq3nqtBm1Q/dYrCF+zI/FWp2KPRvf86ljtmhkLJg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d1k/YWfV4x+Nh/Ks8immikkHesrQRxrtjcqoEqI+oLsYPbvV/9BAJcduew9UjqVHixmNOqruoDNVA14QjlCkShEm3uklQ5UU22z/YIyCi7xL2LcS1bIKlze6YnogARN3VVC7ghB9QioMjwl5I5IPa+E6M7Uc2liXfg07mWFyg2Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZnZ+dN8w4Ka6sY/QHTGxfuPDWYYg40zeFWU1dXaerQfMaDvugINj/VF3eDYuFj5uozjsIg0P9PjimgWz9GcWL9ElNcZih+qxS+WXyKWs13SwWbs+Ee5/vZhZ6HReDc2W9mZrJ5mgMVgnQzxFHsUJjT4DwmYhaVMIrsgFm752d00=; Message-ID: <181197.77327.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: brPB5OcVM1ksjXuBGW4dVWFnKTUPCNq5JHqVHZjRoSlGBKP MN5X4o8GNvyC6WON7fqdJEhBX_qL_9GjlnhRiedvUNxviYp7jrlngpS2L25v AhMNhVhaVFwmZ2U5B_KBzo2MyORepQmh2mqCBOqnikSQSAPaVBQQFkCoTHwc JQWb.5BM5sI.DqrY4oIZFISDpCoj9LX0OpOPWG.y.mxOV5naADqM.l_zd.y7 5sgAlz__G4DDS16hb2XOpzXXNom97OABfocRwBvxAJlXS.t_jBcBYdtV3Y.I Zlu1fFDmXGscXGvYxgeyHpJU- Received: from [86.156.201.240] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:16:25 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <4D594B3A.17889.154E048@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <4D595528.6473.17BA97B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <202981.9384.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4D595ECC.24270.1A14EEE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:16:25 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4D595ECC.24270.1A14EEE@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G4AYT? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1812542611-1297703785=:77327" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d237.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60914d59639b1cc4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-1812542611-1297703785=:77327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi LF=20 Ok Mike thanks for all the info again. But how do you wire up back to back diodes left-handed??=A0.....=A0{:0) =A073 es GL petefmt=20 ________________________________ From: Mike Dennison To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 14 February, 2011 16:56:44 Subject: Re: LF: G4AYT? > I am using a TS690s Internal preamp on. No external amp. Best results > were with the TX tuner=A0600mm diam resonant transformer from a LW > antenna=A0up13m 35m long sloping down to about 5m (slope temporary). Up > wire touches only at tuner OP and two through the wall thin PTFE > washers and at the top of antenna up lead using a deep ribbed glass > insulator 8inches long far end plastic dogbone. All comments welcome. You may need an external pre-amp. See several books and web sites for circuits. Your insulation should not be a problem on receive. I forgot to mention that I get some advantage from driving Argo very hard - well into the red zone - and via a crude limiter (back-to-back diodes). The AF distortion introduced is counter-intuitive but it has been found by me and others (Jim, M0BMU calls his limiter a Hendrix- izer) to gain a dB or two in SNR with only a small increase in background noise. Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 --0-1812542611-1297703785=:77327 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF
 
Ok Mike thanks for all the info again.
 
But how do you wire up back to back diodes left-handed?? .....&n= bsp;{:0)
 
73 es GL petefmt=20


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From: Mike Dennison <mi= ke.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Mon, 14 February, 2011 16:56:44
Subject: Re: LF: G4AYT?

&g= t; I am using a TS690s Internal preamp on. No external amp. Best results> were with the TX tuner 600mm diam resonant transformer from a= LW
> antenna up13m 35m long sloping down to about 5m (slope te= mporary). Up
> wire touches only at tuner OP and two through the wal= l thin PTFE
> washers and at the top of antenna up lead using a deep= ribbed glass
> insulator 8inches long far end plastic dogbone. All= comments welcome.

You may need an external pre-amp. See several bo= oks and web sites for
circuits. Your insulation should not be a problem= on receive.

I forgot to mention that I get some advantage from drivin= g Argo very
hard - well into the red zone - and via a crude limiter (ba= ck-to-back
diodes). The AF distortion introduced is counter-intuitive= but it has
been found by me and others (Jim, M0BMU calls his limiter= a Hendrix-
izer) to gain a dB or two in SNR with only a small increase= in
background noise.

Mike, G3XDV
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D


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