Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-86b14d54414358; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:49:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C4B8638000091; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PncVA-00010P-0K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:48:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PncV9-00010G-Jo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:48:27 +0000 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PncV6-0002yJ-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:48:27 +0000 Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1AJmGbZ024488 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:48:16 -0500 Received: from White (nrbg-4dbe708a.pool.mediaWays.net [77.190.112.138]) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 79753E00008B for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:48:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1404B701DF084CA18C996DD5F5F07952@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <988315.45122.qm@web28515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00c401cbc94c$79b4ca60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:48:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: VLF Transmissions - G3XIZ - 12th / 13th February Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a64d5441410c5d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Chris, I also think that a carrier interruption may be more suitable than DFCW, because it's easy to retain the carrier phase phase, such that a narrow FFT can integrate across the gaps. For this to work, it is necessary to let oscillator and dividers (!) run through, and apply the keying only to the amplifier. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: mal hamilton Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:00 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: VLF Transmissions - G3XIZ - 12th / 13th February Chris Some sort of ID is necessary. I arranged with OE5ODL to cut carrier for pos id. A continuous carrier needs regular cuts. QRS is preferable to DFCW as an ID tool. also regular feedback reporting is also necessary. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: VLF Transmissions - G3XIZ - 12th / 13th February Hi Chris, Very good luck. I'll be looking for you and hoping for success this time. An email direct and to this group saying when TX starts/ends would be helpful. Don't suppose you can send QRSS60 or similar to help with ID? Have passed the word on to Nick G4IKZ as he is closer to you than me and not sure he subscribes to this list. 73s Roger G3XBM On 10 February 2011 14:42, Chris Osborn wrote: LF, I have had permission to transmit on VLF this coming weekend: 12th and 13th February. Weather permitting I shall try again with my balloon-launched aerial, hopefully about 50m vertical. The frequency will be 8.976 66 kHz (i.e. 10.000 MHz / 1114) and is derived from an oven controlled xtal oscillator. Hopefully the frequency will be more stable than last time. If this frequency proves unsuitable I can transmit on 10.000 MHZ / 1112 . .10.000 MHz / 1116 etc. I shall send a continuous carrier as and when conditions permit. My newly built VLF TX is working well and can deliver about 150 watts of RF. On this occasion I shall be using the original (fairly lossy) loading coil but am presently making a more efficient one. All reports will be most welcome. 73 Chris G3XIZ