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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:18:33 +0000
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire
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Actually Mal, Having been taught by REAL experts who also happened to be
REAL radio amateurs as well as pro's the accepted technique was: dip
into ind. alcohol, then dip into solder pot, then dip back into ind.
alcohol, then grip in piece of chamois to wipe clean then wrap to joint,
then solder - all the while gently blowing fumes away from you with
pursed lips.

I'm now nearly 3 score years and ten still alive and solder joints still
working while skeletal joints now creaking!

73


On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 18:00 +0000, mal hamilton wrote:
> That is not the correct procedure. To avoid toxic fumes you scrape the
> enamel off the wire then tin and solder.
> Radio Amateurs know what to do but Appliance Operators will eventually
> poison themselves.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uwe Wensauer" <uwe.wensauer@gmx.de>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:16 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire
> 
> 
> > Enamel removing ist much easier done:
> > Built a solder bubble with the irion and  pierce through slowly the bubble
> > with the wire. The hot solder will melt the enamel
> >
> > The fume generated is toxic !
> >
> > Same procedure also valuable for stranded wire (Litze).
> >
> > 73
> > Uwe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:57 PM
> > Subject: LF: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire
> >
> >
> > > Yes
> > > You scrape the enamel from the area to be soldered to reveal the bare
> > > copper
> > > wire then solder in the normal way.
> > > G3KEV
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Rabson" <john.rabson@numeo.fr>
> > > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:23 AM
> > > Subject: LF: Soldering enamelled copper wire
> > >
> > >
> > > LF,
> > >
> > > I have a reel of such wire labelled as follows:
> > >
> > > "Wire copper enamelled
> > > Part 1230983 0.71 mm 1/2 kg
> > > Solder only in well ventilated area. Fumes are toxic"
> > >
> > > The manufacturer is stated to be Rowan Cable Products Ltd.  I found
> their
> > > website but don't seem able to get into it to find out whether the
> > > covering
> > > of the wire is solderable and (if so)  whether any special techniques
> are
> > > required.
> > >
> > > Can anyone advise, please?
> > >
> > > 73
> > > John F5VLF
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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(east coast, county of suffolk)