Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.139]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA034-b5134d519b8c2ec; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:37:48 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0F2FF380001F6; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 14:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PmtMM-0004i2-1E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:36:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PmtMK-0004hq-JL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:36:20 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PmtMI-0001ws-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:36:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwBAPApUU1Z8nwZ/2dsb2JhbACSdgODYo5cc70ChVoEgWCNUoJt X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,443,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="479392946" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([89.242.124.25]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 08 Feb 2011 19:36:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01cbc7c7$6e8f1040$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <001801cbc795$fb507640$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <198556EF-DE6A-4F7D-AC2D-CFDB87F3CA2F@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:36:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: VLF/LF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CBC7C7.6E4EABE0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d074d519b823fcb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CBC7C7.6E4EABE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tnx Roger for the Met office details. I will approach the 9 Khz slowly and in two stages. Stage 1 When I have worked all of the UK stations that are active on 137 Khz= on either CW or QRS3, most of whom I have not yet heard in spite of= the fact I am working all around EU and Russia daily. =20 Stage 2 When I am able to hear/see the UK stations with NOV'S active on 9 Khz,= none detected so far, although I am able to copy DK7FC and OE5ODL in= QRS3 mode. I specify the above criteria because it would be counter productive fo= r me to embark on a project where there would be noone to communicate= with. I think UK amateurs would need to think in terms of Kilowatts and Amps= on the lower frequencies like they do in EU and the USA. otherwise VLF/LF/MF will turn out to be a DAMP SQUIB. 73 de Mal/G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:22 PM Subject: Re: LF: VLF/LF QSO Hi Mal The only requirement is to inform the Met Office when you'll be on-a= ir - they always say OK - (they do this so they can check if they've= had interference to their sensitive monitoring gear) and to submit lo= gs. You would be a most valuable member of the Dreamers and I urge you= to submit an NoV application. Looking forward to receiving your big= signals soon. All the best Roger G3XBM Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g) On 8 Feb 2011, at 13:42, "mal hamilton" wrot= e: Stefan es Ossi when you are ready for a QSO let me know. From recent observations on both signals I am satisfied that I ca= n receive both at a satisfactory level for a QSO at between QRS 3 and= QRS 30 depending on condx at the actual time. I will reply xband on= either 137.7 Khz or 502.6 Khz if you can receive satisfactory on thos= e frequencies. I do not have a permit for TX on 9 Khz and then I think= one can only TX at a time convenient to the UK Met office. Pse advise when you are QRV 73 De Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CBC7C7.6E4EABE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Roger for the Met office details.
I will approach the 9 Khz slowly and in two=20 stages.
Stage 1
When I have worked all of the UK stations that= are active=20 on 137 Khz on either CW or QRS3, most of whom I have not yet heard in= spite of=20 the fact I am working all around EU and Russia daily.=
 
 
Stage 2
When I am able to hear/see the UK stations wit= h NOV'S=20 active on 9 Khz, none detected so far, although I am able to copy DK7F= C and=20 OE5ODL in QRS3 mode.
 
I specify the above criteria because it= would be=20 counter productive for me to embark on a project where there= would be=20 noone to communicate with.
I think UK amateurs would need to think= in terms of=20 Kilowatts and Amps on the lower frequencies like they do in EU an= d the=20 USA.
otherwise VLF/LF/MF will turn out to= be a DAMP=20 SQUIB.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 08,= 2011 4:22=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VLF/LF QSO

Hi Mal

The only requirement is to inform the Met Office when you'll be= on-air -=20 they always say OK - (they do this so they can check if they've had= =20 interference to their sensitive monitoring gear) and to submit logs.= You would=20 be a most valuable member of the Dreamers and I urge you to submit= an NoV=20 application. Looking forward to receiving your big signals soon.

All the best
Roger G3XBM

Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g)

On 8 Feb 2011, at 13:42, "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:

Stefan es Ossi when you are ready for a QS= O let me=20 know.
 From recent observations on both sig= nals I am=20 satisfied that I can receive both at a satisfactory level for a QS= O at=20 between QRS 3 and QRS 30 depending on condx at the actual time. I= will reply=20 xband on either 137.7 Khz or 502.6 Khz if you can receive satisfac= tory on=20 those frequencies. I do not have a permit for TX on 9 Khz and then= I think=20 one can only TX at a time convenient to the UK Met office.<= /DIV>
 
Pse advise when you are QRV
73 De Mal/g3kev
 
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