Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.79]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC021-a8d34d57c31d1c7; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:40:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C813A38000190; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PoaHr-00066Z-SV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:38:43 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PoaHq-00066Q-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:38:42 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PoaHo-0003Kr-Qo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:38:42 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEBACpRV01cHYtw/2dsb2JhbACIW45MP44bc7hchV4Ej0s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,464,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="343400124" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.139.112]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2011 11:38:30 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01cbcb72$87e2f760$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00c301cbcb04$b57989a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><00dd01cbcb0a$b7f1f4f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><00eb01cbcb0d$6a82ee10$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <012001cbcb15$e63c14c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <433CFC410770450186BB307A8AD28484@JimPC> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:38:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: CQ WW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604f4d57c31a70b1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Jim Are u still active on 137. The freq area 136.177 seems to be a problem in the USA from QRM, maybe the old freq of 136.318 would be better and why was it changed? I said at the time keep it as it is. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:46 AM Subject: LF: Re: CQ WW > Dear Warren, Mal, LF Group, > > I took the opportunity of your sked to try simultaneous reception of the Eu > / NA QRSS windows - really, I was hoping G3XDV would be transmitting as > well, since he is only about 11km from me and would be a good challenge for > the receiver. I think it is possible by carefully adjusting the various > gains to reduce the "splatter" caused by such a local signal to allow the > copy of relatively DX signals within a few hertz. This didn't happen, but I > was able to simultaneously receive WD2XGJ, G3KEV, PA0A, RA3AGC and DF6NM. > The attachment shows signals from about 2245 - 0112utc; it is screen shots > from two instances of SpecLab edited together, and the scroll rate was > increased at about 0000, which is why the time markers don't match up > perfectly. > > Concerning QSOs in QRSS with very long dot periods, I think this shows how > it is most important to agree the format and the protocol for the QSO before > starting. I think the generally accepted format goes something like: > > XGJ KEV K (for a sked, or CQ KEV K for a random QSO, repeat as necessary) > ...then... > KEV XGJ O K > XGJ KEV R O K > KEV XGJ R TU SK ...(end of QSO) > > It is probably best to decide from experience who is likely to be the weaker > received signal, and for that station to make the initial calls, since then > subsequent overs are most likely to succeed. If one station fails to > completely receive an over, they should repeat their previous over so that > the other station can repeat also. Some will insist that complete callsigns > should be used for the initial overs, but I think most agree on the > abbreviated calls, especially for a sked. Some people omit the "K" at the > end of an over, or substitute an "E", but I think this is a bad idea because > under marginal conditions it is harder to tell when the other station has > stopped transmitting. > > Hope this is helpful - better luck next time! > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU >