Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.139]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-865a4d5afe923d8; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:30:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0D76A3800009E; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PpTPD-0004PU-FY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:29:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PpTPD-0004PL-0d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:29:59 +0000 Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.250]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PpTPB-0001eT-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:29:58 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.214] by nm14.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 22:29:51 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.176] by tm7.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 22:29:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 22:29:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 647630.13954.bm@omp1017.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77793 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2011 22:29:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=AhCunokhQuwqZNMjHp6OJhml/AjmRIr8NtFxRD3RbtFK3DCm+VZ2YZFAZ+e0JQ+J2KZVkcc50Mgzdzc2fFpRd2ZwY2XkW0RdQoNo1DADOBRKNGcoAyK0ok0cWEJw3WH41FfmAmAiy897/XR7Xivf6C6Gr2F9qa0vtxiyV1w6HYg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297808991; bh=rdAuI/myY/07kdGGtwUc1gIx+c9CeCNyzQdShqbCcJQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=1z9eh+rd2xjCwJZsSaOEqv762Jbfl7rSEB9zSj7FrSXZKOX1B3d60jzgp5VZS1abjiIypA7RPKmasbYFXrSy74g43SJgx8nnfUuk4hC6iErzyexp20A5Hp7GxV2K3OnWAmFtXCDJuF8QKAXVq7C5FY3Yvc6aveRbqWgQ0Kzma2U= Received: from lark (alan.melia@86.167.119.73 with login) by smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2011 22:29:48 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-YMail-OSG: 9VjiZPoVM1l.WnyBZE0sgxhu0aTzQKFE0WfvJZnAbRUv_nV uQ.Ve.izqP8yKE00vkYdoR2hS_idlec.zyMVcRI24baImQiJ5uIZWefzPoxn 9Yy4DZM31eHtDc4HAVy83n5bFYbqFfNt82eq8e9rmBE7s3AB0LML4SB9Qbbf Q4Kmsl1.2gqbLXiEmtS0ckA5I5PUboxJONyNuFJrP6ly5RVXzRdwSaiuwv9p oY3YMOf7KCwh7vkE4y54tXwoun13ryERGEV4P.bbH3R_QF6waPAeIXLlA2qi FpCGaxrIyatD0wPtP X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002801cbcd5f$df9c22d0$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:26:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110215-1, 15/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: 40 years (completely OT, but...) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d264.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608b4d5afe90012c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy another one in a similar vein from even earlier. I had at one= time (cant find it now) an orange Mullard valve box with the printing on th= e end saying "Valve OC70 =A33 6sh + Purchase Tax" I guess this was from the= late 1950s. Transistors were becoming a lot cheaper by the 1970s. I am surprised= as a penniless schoolboy you didnt buy a bargain pack from Bi-Pak or Bi-Pre= Pack (no connection to any other firm) in Ware I think. MMmmm Electronic components seem to be about the only thing that has gone down in price= . since that period. I remember buying a large bag of nondescript uncode= d plastic NPN, 1000 for =A310......I am still using 'em. I remeber an American at a Conference around that time (Las Vegas woul= d you believe!) saying to fellow attendee "Well we have learned how to sell= a 10cent gate..........all we have to do now is figure out a way of maki= ng them for a profit!" Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:19 PM Subject: LF: 40 years (completely OT, but...) 40 Years ago today decimal money was introduced to the UK It was half= term hols, and at the age of 12 I went into one of the electronics shops in= Hurst St, Birmingham (a bit like London's Edgware Rd. back then) to buy two IN4007 diodes as I needed to make a PSU for some valve project. Bein= g my first purchase with the new money I remember exactly how much thos= e two diodes cost : The two diodes were 50 new pence, (which probably soun= ded a lot less than ten shillings they were the day before) Consulting an RPI chart shows about 1100% inflation since Feb 1971 whi= ch makes those two diodes something like =A35.50 at today's prices. The current cost from Farnell for the IN4007 is about 8p, including VA= T, for two-off. Now, even allowing for the fact a local electronics shop would have= a massive mark up on components, the price from a catalogue supplier wou= ld still have been in the 15 - 20p (=A31.50 - =A32 now) region. Were electronic components really so much more expensive back then -= it wasn't an exotic diode. Completely OT, and nothing whatosover to do with LF, but about the on= ly bit of component pricing I really recall accurately from those days. Andy G4JNT (or G8IMR 3 years after the big diode rip-off)