Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.143]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD024-86aa4d6963ee2a6; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:34:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2E823380000AA; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:34:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PtQq0-00012F-Gd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:34:00 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PtQpz-000126-Gh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:33:59 +0000 Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PtQpy-0007qo-1E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:33:59 +0000 Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ck2E1g0011ap0As53kZsFe; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:33:52 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([76.23.233.102]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CkZr1g00Y2DDHkk3ikZrrS; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:33:51 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01cbd5f4$7a15d9e0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <4D68D656.11240.29D4BD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <000b01cbd5a7$6505ba40$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <009b01cbd5f2$8af4ebe0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:33:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01CBD5CA.90E073D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408f4d6963ec33d5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CBD5CA.90E073D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal Tnx info. Will take a look in a while. Sun still high in the sky here ... Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Jay At present 2016 gmt Reports at the RN3AGC qth G3KEV 20 dB snr PA0A 11 dB HE3OM 30 dB - 10 dB advantage over me and WPC WPC 20 dB No others visible at present mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: jrusgrove@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:22 AM Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Toni What is your projected start time? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: HB9ASB To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:44 AM Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA Thank you Mike we will try again tonight and JA7NI will switch to QRSS30. 73 de Toni 2011/2/26 Mike Dennison Last night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA dawn.. UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previously. See attached. Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC's grabber which shows that DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we could not compete with HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on us. The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is not a practical speed for real DX. There are long periods where the signal is well above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign being received. At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still been viable and allowed a couple of full calls to be read. Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record on 136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs have available. Mike, G3XDV ========== The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. 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Mal
 
Tnx info. Will take a look in a while= . Sun still=20 high in the sky here ...
 
Jay
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Saturday, February 26,= 2011 3:19=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA<= /DIV>

Jay
At present 2016 gmt
Reports at the RN3AGC qth
 
G3KEV 20 dB snr
PA0A    11 dB
HE3OM  30 dB  - 10 dB advantage ov= er me and=20 WPC
WPC      20=20 dB
No others visible at present
 
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 26= , 2011 11:22=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in= JA

Toni
 
What is your projected start time= ?
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XG= R/2=20
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 HB9= ASB
Sent: Saturday, February= 26, 2011=20 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in= JA

Thank you Mike
we will try again tonight and= JA7NI will=20 switch to QRSS30.
73 de Toni

2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <mike.dennis= on@ntlworld.com>
Last=20 night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA=20 dawn..
UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previo= usly.=20 See
attached.

Also attached is the same time on RN3A= GC's=20 grabber which shows that
DF6NM and myself were also calling= , but we=20 could not compete with
HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-2= 0dB up on=20 us.

The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120= is not a=20 practical
speed for real DX. There are long periods where= the signal=20 is well
above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsig= n being=20 received.
At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still= been=20 viable and
allowed a couple of full calls to be=20 read.

Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateu= r world=20 record on
136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger tha= n most=20 amateurs have
available.

Mike, G3XDV
=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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