Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj01.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.137]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC073-86534d307bcca7; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:37:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E9701380000AF; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PdmdS-0007xu-0R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:36:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PdmdR-0007xl-Gu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:36:21 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PdmdP-0000S6-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:36:21 +0000 Received: from pc-roelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0EGaD4O024275 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:36:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4D7062BE2D504CA4A55BDE1C7103CF31@gmc.net> <1295011560.4164.19.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:36:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Roelof Bakker" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1295011560.4164.19.camel@pat-compaq-evo> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.00 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: Re: LF: Re: Mini-Whip Antenna Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d054d307bca477c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Hi Roelof, > > Some interesting comments there. > > On the topic of feeder pick up Alan G3NYK and myself have had many > conversations over the years about ways to deal with the problem and a > method we've never got around to trying but I now have some components > to try (when I get a "roundtooit") is to convert (E/O) electrical to > optical at the feedpoint and then conduct by fibre through the noise > field converting back to demodulated baseband in the shack. The problem > of powering the feedpoint equipment may be overcome by using batteries > (possibly solar-charged) thus avoiding further noise pick up and > re-radiation from power source cabling. > > 73 Yes, this is an excellent idea and to be honest I have already acquired the necessary parts for some time, but have not come round yet to use them. An other idea that I have tested and can give excellent results in difficult cases is to use CAT5 network cable. I used rf-isolating transformers at both ends for the signal pair and common mode chokes at both ends for the pair carrying power to the antenna. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt