Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.214]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD022-8b794d375525382; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:18:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 55C433800014B; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:18:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PffPV-0004KS-Gy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:17:45 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PffPV-0004KJ-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:17:45 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s35.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PffPT-0007Tc-Uo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:17:45 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W37 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s35.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:17:37 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [138.32.32.166] From: Laurence KL7UK To: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:17:36 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<4D3750C7.10508@freenet.de>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2011 21:17:37.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BD9B680:01CBB81E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_41bf7155-5185-4896-aefa-f204b02de33f_" Subject: RE: LF: reference DHO38 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d64d3755235ede X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_41bf7155-5185-4896-aefa-f204b02de33f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thats a typo its http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html - I need that coffee br= eak! =20 =20 Laurence =20 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:12:56 -0900 Subject: RE: LF: reference DHO38 =20 Good evening WOLF (afternoon here) =20 Good question - Luckily DHO38 is one of the most stable/strong freq source= s over the 24 hours periods that I have in Alaska :-)) - the "beam" is poi= nting at it...its around 7110Kms or so from home. =20 - I appreciate the feedback - its my second choice over NPM 21.4 which is= off for a lot longer, especially today - I see that 0700/0800Z off perio= d for DHO - that really would be a good morning coffee break period.=20 =20 The other US stations are pretty or very weak, being in the null of the lo= op or my horrid West/East path =20 Im running "too many colors" at the moment - which is really gaudy but pre= tty good at showing selective fading within the signal - well it appears= so - ill revert once Ive collected a couple more hours of data. =20 Cheers for the info -=20 =20 Laurence KL7 UK Wasilla Alaska operated from 5 http://kl7uk.com/VHFAlaska.html =20 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:59:51 +0100 From: dl4yhf@freenet.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: reference DHO38 Am 19.01.2011 21:28, schrieb Laurence KL7UK:=20 I cant remember is DHo38 stable to be used as a reference recently with Sp= ecL? - Ive lost NPM for the moment and making a mess of the display :-)) =20 Laurence KL 7UK remote 5 =20 =20 =20 =20 It's relatively stable, enough for this application, but not for phase mea= surements. IIRC, DHO38 isn't spot on frequency ... the phase wanders off by a few deg= rees per minute, so it's just a few mHz off. And the folks take a one hour= coffee break each morning, during which the transmitter is off. More questionable if the signal is strong & stable enough over that distan= ce. 73,=20 Wolf DL4YHF . =3D --_41bf7155-5185-4896-aefa-f204b02de33f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thats a typo its  http://= kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html  - I need that coffee break!
 
 
Laurence
 
From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.orgDate: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:12:56 -0900
Subject: RE: LF: reference DHO3= 8

 
Good evening WOLF (afternoon here)
 
Good question -= Luckily DHO38 is one of the most stable/strong freq sources over the 24= hours periods that I have in Alaska :-)) - the "beam" is pointi= ng at it...its around 7110Kms or so from home.
 
 - I appr= eciate the feedback - its my second choice over NPM 21.4 which is off= for a lot longer, especially today - I  see that 0700/0800= Z off period for DHO - that really would be a good morning coffee break pe= riod.
 
The other US stations are pretty or very weak, being= in the null of the loop or my horrid West/East path
 
Im runni= ng "too many colors" at the moment - which is really gaudy but pretty good= at showing selective fading within the signal - well it appears so - ill= revert once Ive collected a couple more hours of data.
 
Cheer= s for the info -
 
Laurence KL7 UK Wasilla Alaska operated fro= m  5
h= ttp://kl7uk.com/VHFAlaska.html
 
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:59:51 +0100
From: dl4yhf@freenet.de
To: rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: reference DHO38

Am= 19.01.2011 21:28, schrieb Laurence KL7UK:=20
I cant remember is DHo38 stable to be used as a reference recently with Sp= ecL? - Ive lost NPM for the moment and making a mess of the display= :-))
 
Laurence KL 7UK remote 5
 
 
 <= BR> 
It's relatively stable, enough for this applicat= ion, but not for phase measurements.
IIRC, DHO38 isn't spot on frequenc= y ... the phase wanders off by a few degrees per minute, so it's just a fe= w mHz off. And the folks take a one hour coffee break each morning, during= which the transmitter is off.
More questionable if the signal is stron= g & stable enough over that distance.

73,
  Wolf DL4YH= F .
=3D --_41bf7155-5185-4896-aefa-f204b02de33f_--