Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.14]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC082-a98c4d270e972a8; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:01:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2FE3A380000B4; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PbBvd-000618-Id for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:00:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PbBvc-00060w-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:00:24 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PbBvZ-0004tk-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:00:24 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F85F759F95 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:00:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N2.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n2.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.12]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D43FF3862 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:00:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N2.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.12]) with mapi; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:00:14 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:00:13 +0100 Thread-Topic: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Thread-Index: AcuuaFgiMt1+7YrfRauuneeHQtxiJQAATK8a Message-ID: References: <002801cbadf3$1e15bb70$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <1294359648.6336.6.camel@vaio3rd> <001501cbae53$54fee2a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4D26EE51.8010706@o2.ie>,<001f01cbae5c$01cc94c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> ,<556535.74415.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <556535.74415.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: RE: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C88715AE9FEICTSSEXC2CAlu_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600e4d270e947bcb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C88715AE9FEICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I think it was "Wireless World" a proper Journal in the 50/60s had a Log= / Linear graph > providing a simple way to convert from c/s to Hz when the Hz was introdu= ced. It must have been in their April number, as the "conversion ratio" from c/= s to Hz is 1. The introduction of the SI system in general was controversial in some cou= ntries that not ready to give up local units. Or maybe because the origin= of the SI system (in the late 18th centrury !) was in France ? But all this is 50 years ago, I guess the SI system is now generally accep= ted (except in Myamar, Liberia and a small outskirt in NE England). 73, Rik ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens M0FMT [m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk] Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 13:40 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Hi Rik You have to admit that the introduction of the Hertz was a bit of a sop.= All due respect to the bloke. I remember, I think it was "Wireless World"= a proper Journal in the 50/60s had a Log / Linear graph providing a simpl= e way to convert from c/s to Hz when the Hz was introduced. 73 es GL petefmt I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP. ________________________________ From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Sent: Fri, 7 January, 2011 12:22:38 Subject: RE: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to > FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE those who prefer to use units that were decommissioned in 1960 (when the= SI system was introduced) should at least do it correct : "cycles per sec= ond", just "cycles" is meaningless. > Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technicall= y > inapproapriat when describing Frequency. So we also have to get rid of Farad (named after Michael Faraday), Volt (A= lexander Volta), Ohm (Simon Ohm), Amp=E9re (Andr=E9-Marie Ampere), Henry= (Joseph Henry), Coulomb (Charles-Augustin de Coulomb), Joule (James Joule= ), Watt (James Watt) and so on ... A lot of work to do ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 12:14 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Tony In the electronic context. There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE and can be observed on a 'Scope for example but what does a HERT= Z look like. Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technically inapproapriat when describing Frequency. Rumour has it that one EU member state wants a RESISTOR renamed BANSHEE G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > Maybe at the same time we could ask other people to use SI units of > frequency ? > > 73, Tony, EI8JK. > > > On 07/01/2011 10:12, mal hamilton wrote: > > GD Rick > > Your message about grabbers vy useful. Could you ask Grabber operators to > > use UTC please. > > Tnx de Malcolm/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Wakatori"<7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > > To:> > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:20 AM > > Subject: LF: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > > > > > >> The following URL shows 7 LF grabbers currentry opend in Japan. > >> Please try to access when your computer works well. > >> http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/ja-grabbers.html > >> > >> -- > >> -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Kanagawa,Japan(JP) > >> URL =3D http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C88715AE9FEICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I think it was "Wireless World" a proper Journal= in the 50/60s had a Log / Linear graph 
> providing a simple way= to convert from c/s to Hz when the Hz was introduced.
It must have been in their April number, as the "conversion ratio&quo= t; from c/s to Hz is 1.
The introduction of the SI system in= general was controversial in some countries that not= ready to give up local units. Or maybe because the origin of the SI syste= m (in the late 18th centrury !) was in France ?
But all this is 50 years ago, I gues= s the SI system is now generally accepted (except in Myamar, Liberia and= a small outskirt in NE England).
 
73, Rik
 
Van: owner-rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens M0FMT= [m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk]
Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 13:40
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time

Hi Rik
 
You have to admit that the introduction of the Hertz was a bit of a= sop. All due respect to the bloke. I remember, I think it was "= Wireless World" a proper Journal in the 50/60s had a Log /= Linear graph providing a simple way to convert from c/s to Hz when the Hz was introduced.
 
73 es GL petefmt


I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP.


From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.= Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
To: "rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Fri, 7 January, 2011= 12:22:38
Subject: RE: LF: Re: JA GR= RABBERS at a same time

> There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to
> FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE
those who prefer to use units that were decommissioned in 1960 (when the= SI system was introduced) should at least do it correct : "cycles pe= r second", just "cycles" is meaningless.

> Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technic= ally
> inapproapriat when describing Frequency.
So we also have to get rid of Farad (named after Michael Faraday), Volt (A= lexander Volta), Ohm (Simon Ohm), Amp=E9re (Andr=E9-Marie Ampere), Henry= (Joseph Henry), Coulomb (Charles-Augustin de Coulomb), Joule (James Joule= ), Watt (James Watt) and so on ...
A lot of work to do ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


________________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 12:14
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time

Tony
In the electronic context.
There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE and can be observed on a 'Scope for example but what does a HERT= Z
look like.
Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technically<= br> inapproapriat when describing Frequency.
Rumour has it that one EU member state wants a RESISTOR renamed BANSHEE
G3KEV



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony" <ei8jk@o2.ie&= gt;
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time


> Maybe at the same time we could ask other people to use SI units of > frequency ?
>
> 73, Tony, EI8JK.
>
>
> On 07/01/2011 10:12, mal hamilton wrote:
> > GD Rick
> > Your message about grabbers vy useful. Could you ask Grabber ope= rators
to
> > use UTC please.
> > Tnx de Malcolm/G3KEV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Wakatori"<7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>
> > To:<rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:20 AM
> > Subject: LF: JA GRRABBERS at a same time
> >
> >
> >>    The following URL shows 7 LF grabbers currentry= opend in Japan.
> >> Please try to access when your computer works well.
> >> http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/ja-grabbers.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> -.. .  --...  .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-.
> >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Kanagawa,Japan(JP)
> >> URL =3D http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html
> >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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