Return-Path: Received: from imd-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (imd-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.78]) by air-da01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA012-86114d27123e7d; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:16:46 -0500 Received: from mtain-mi12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mi12.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by imd-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Inbound Mail Deferral) with ESMTP id 3A4DE70000087; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 625163800008A; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PbCAd-0006ai-Ar for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:15:55 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PbCAc-0006aZ-UJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:15:54 +0000 Received: from mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PbCAa-00056x-9B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:15:54 +0000 Received: from APOLLO1.ds.leeds.ac.uk (apollo1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.5.4]) by mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p07DFkOK007734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:15:46 GMT Received: from HERMES8.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([fe80::39ce:23e:d0b5:7e24]) by APOLLO1.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.4]) with mapi; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:15:46 +0000 From: Chris Trayner To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:15:44 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Thread-Index: AcuubP5Y0PZzDKHMS3OnQmRgz+mEQg== Message-ID: References: <002801cbadf3$1e15bb70$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <1294359648.6336.6.camel@vaio3rd> <001501cbae53$54fee2a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4D26EE51.8010706@o2.ie> <001f01cbae5c$01cc94c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4D26FB32.1030300@telia.com> <1294402684.4147.1.camel@pat-compaq-evo> In-Reply-To: <1294402684.4147.1.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400cded44d27123c3918 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear All, >>> Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technica= lly >>> inapproapriat when describing Frequency. >>=20 I think the real reason for changing from cycles/second is that the units= describe the dimensions of the quantity. Dimensions in physics are relati= vely few things: mass, length, time etc. Cycles are not a dimension, so a= tidying up of the old name would rename it "per second" or "1/seconds",= which most would find confusing. As for the name hertz (named after Heinrich Hertz who didn't discover freq= uency ...), I suspect much of this was down to bargaining inside whatever= committee defined SI. They managed to largely reconcile the warring tribe= s of CGS and MKS, so I think we have to accept some unfortunate decisions.= The old CGS+MKS systems certainly were a major mess, e.g. 1000 calories= =3D 1 Calorie. > Whatever happened to LITRES and JARS? If you want to keep This Sceptred Isle as the last bastion of eccentric un= its, note that you could validly descibe voltage gain in fathoms per metre= . I have a friend who wrote a booklet giving the speed of light in such us= eful units as furlongs per fortnight*. 73, Chris G4OKW * 1.803 x 10^12. But then I expect you knew that. ----------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032