Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.218]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-86474d39fc3e167; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:35:58 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CCE3738000A3F; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PgOdY-0007SS-58 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:35:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PgOdX-0007SJ-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:35:15 +0000 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PgOdU-0000gr-Ss for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:35:15 +0000 Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so2248414iwn.16 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:35:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uqjOHWcm5TFAGG3l0HP1FXQ1XHkVobpvmgriYWL8xsc=; b=SwjXIvKBi/stRdYTiZ54MMfyqxjotQvzrdxfe+xSfS6nEQs5rrxeMjdefAzG+6NHjE 6pwOm4Qar8YgNrRxCsEUCnieMgSrKZP0Hs3goGRdRQW/OuoxxjQHTEQH+aY/MwLU0ss3 vGBkBYiAo75ojcH+UM0eQhd2jV1+hPA+6woCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OgO9SNdRVKohTr0n6mUP9ZxdwUqtgEZUZ7xdEU8P5o+6N2eiRKrfSXFjSof9SQoTjh E+y54F63A6DfHqVHci3T6JARmOJqDfVAQuXp0hrsgbIK9ZqRnyNvG2F8SFp+bEQ2EDU2 ahwpwz2QcVJ0n6AqSDblihxUsiCS2RtqkeIC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.228.201 with SMTP id jf9mr1457864icb.233.1295645711088; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.241.133 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:35:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <004a01cbb99f$182a38f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <004a01cbb99f$182a38f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:35:11 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02=0.192,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Alpha benchmark Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=20cf3054a14d5d3d79049a620679 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/67549 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m014.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40da4d39fc3c3f7e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --20cf3054a14d5d3d79049a620679 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a14d5d3d66049a620677 --20cf3054a14d5d3d66049a620677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mal/All, For what it is worth, these are the Alpha figures measured here (JO02dg) this evening around 2115-2130z with my large single turn loop and tuned preamp using Spectran on 48k sampling rate with 1.5Hz resolution: 11.905kHz = -47.1dB (about 20dB over the noise) 12.649kHz = -47.7dB 14.881kHz = -42.7dB My loop may not be properly set onto 8.97kHz yet as I need to peak the tuning. My loop is roughly W-E pointing. Perhaps experts here can advise if these are good/bad figures? 73s Roger G3XBM On 21 January 2011 19:12, mal hamilton wrote: > vlf > As a guide for those interested in VLF 9 Khz it would be useful if each > station could use the Alpha station on 11905 Khz as a benchmark for quality > of reception. > and let us all know hown efficient their RX system is. > In my case using an inv L 150 metres total length not resonated the report > is minus 60 dB with a sig over noise of 25 dB. This seems an acceptable > system for 9 Khz reception. > I can do better by resonating the antenna, or using my 136 antenna system > re-resonated for 9 Khz > I get the impression that at some locations receiving is a problem, for > various reasons including noise from being in the middle of a Urban > environment. > Can we have some data. > de mal/g3kev > > > -- g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ www.g3xbm.co.uk www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 <#> <#> <#> <#> --20cf3054a14d5d3d66049a620677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal/All,

For what it is worth, these are the Alpha figures measured= here (JO02dg) this evening around 2115-2130z with my large single turn lo= op and tuned preamp using Spectran on 48k sampling rate with 1.5Hz resolut= ion:

11.905kHz =3D -47.1dB (about 20dB ov= er the noise)
12.649kHz =3D -47.7dB
14.881kHz =3D -42.7dB
<= br>My loop may not be properly set onto 8.97kHz yet as I need to peak the= tuning. My loop is roughly W-E pointing. Perhaps experts here can advise= if these are good/bad figures?

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 21 January 201= 1 19:12, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
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Can we have some data.
de mal/g3kev
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