Return-Path: Received: from mtain-me06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-me06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.142]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-8b754d3f4f40216; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:31:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5B54C380000AD; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PhrOy-0003rO-8l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:30:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PhrOx-0003rF-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:30:15 +0000 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PhrOu-0007pC-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:30:15 +0000 Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so316283iwn.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:30:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TFRcTS9OEs25R6RlduUPX+WCLrI5ssqe81jXH+xfmig=; b=NOg9DY1uJQwDKMlC2kwydKG9CgHmBnlO2Sv/Y68/X77o6oChXqN6FXKfA4aSazjGvg ma7J76lQPlbvar8AnpBjbALO+BxrKjsvHep92Cg5cUWvDOrcB0jrMxCNTQOC+hdH91Gj 6jAJg9ya/0lddXepQ1mplG1SXkKJMGmZBcUXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=embOiI5k3or6OwABVFUMlUGofAy5O7g9fOxQWtXP1RsEX8tVSG8ipg4EEBWPblbxcj DLjC6WlBZybkeZxrqOogbfDf+m9R8mxaOS9RAQZvVu18pmXWBuZx//B5R5ACn7bL1wnO Yf6xZuvY2Yx13jUUJwAWKFGHb13bfwoKz5Zpg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.13.137 with SMTP id c9mr7254844iba.37.1295994611335; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.211 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:30:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <01C40FB8-DD02-4580-83F4-07BFCC480769@gmail.com> References: <830F0804F1574EA8B4F36C4F30A5B0D4@JimPC> <01C40FB8-DD02-4580-83F4-07BFCC480769@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:30:11 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022150467ef70831a049ab342d1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m024.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608e4d3f4f3e47ef X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0022150467ef70831a049ab342d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess so. http://wsprnet.org/olddb?mode=html&band=2190&limit=50&findcall=&findreporter=&sort=date is more user friendly and nicer than the one accessible from the wsprnet.org front page. But the power is not 0.2 watts. I'm sending 33dBm, which comes out as 2 Watts (or 1.995W based on their unrounded calc). Which, for once, is actually quite close to the truth. I reprogrammed the PIC to update the power only this morning. Andy On 25 January 2011 22:20, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Andy this was what came out from the standard database report with the > number of reports set to 500 and the timescale as "forever". I think the 0.2 > is the power in watts. Are you still using the old databae interface? > > 73s > Roger XBM > > Sent from my iPod Touch 4g > > On 25 Jan 2011, at 22:07, Andy Talbot wrote: > > Didn't mean WSPR.exe - Freudian slip :-) > It doesn't look like the listing from the WSPRNET site. I don't > recognise the 0.2 value and the power level isn't shown ? > > I'm used to seeing reports like : > 2011-01-25 21:56 G4JNT 0.503885 -15 0 IO90iv +33 1.995 > PA3ABK JO21it 429 267 2011-01-25 21:56 G4JNT 0.503875 +10 > 0 IO90iv +33 1.995 M0BMU IO91vr 119 74 2011-01-25 21:56 > G4JNT 0.503875 -3 0 IO90iv +33 1.995 G3XBM JO02dg 188 > 117 > > Date, time, call, freq, S/N, drift, Loc, dBm, Watts, Listener, their loc, > dist in km, distance in ancient > > Andy > 'JNT > > > > On 25 January 2011 21:46, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> Just cut and pasted the filtered WSPR spots report Andy. I've changed to >> the loop antenna which will account for some of the difference, but you are >> much stronger than the last time I copied your 500kHz beacon. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> >> >> >> On 25 January 2011 21:35, Andy Talbot wrote: >> >>> I'm only 4dB up in power. So either its propagation which seems >>> unlikely over this short range, or your noise level is a lot lower. >>> >>> What software generated that listing - its not WSPR.EXE is it? >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> On 25 January 2011 21:26, Roger Lapthorn wrote: >>> >>>> Andy, >>>> >>>> Never seen you so strong. >>>> >>>> 2010-09-04 21:12 G4JNT 0.503874 *+1* 0 IO90iv 0.2 >>>> G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-14 22:12 G4JNT 0.503874 -14 >>>> 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-14 22:06 >>>> G4JNT 0.503874 -15 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-14 >>>> 21:54 G4JNT 0.503874 -13 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg >>>> 188 35 2010-08-14 21:42 G4JNT 0.503874 -13 0 IO90iv >>>> 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-14 21:36 G4JNT 0.503874 >>>> -17 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-14 21:26 >>>> G4JNT 0.503874 -14 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-14 >>>> 21:22 G4JNT 0.503874 -18 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg >>>> 188 35 2010-08-14 21:12 G4JNT 0.503874 -18 0 IO90iv >>>> 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-13 21:54 G4JNT 0.503874 >>>> -20 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-13 21:42 >>>> G4JNT 0.503874 -21 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-13 >>>> 21:36 G4JNT 0.503874 -17 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg >>>> 188 35 2010-08-13 21:26 G4JNT 0.503874 -12 0 IO90iv >>>> 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-13 21:22 G4JNT 0.503874 >>>> -18 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-13 21:12 >>>> G4JNT 0.503874 -13 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-13 >>>> 21:06 G4JNT 0.503874 -22 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg >>>> 188 35 2010-08-11 21:26 G4JNT 0.503874 -20 0 IO90iv >>>> 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-11 21:22 G4JNT 0.503874 >>>> -21 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 2010-08-10 22:22 >>>> G4JNT 0.503874 -20 0 IO90iv 0.2 G3XBM JO02dg 188 35 >>>> 73s >>>> Roger G3XBM >>>> >>>> -- >>>> g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >>>> www.g3xbm.co.uk >>>> www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm >>>> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> www.g3xbm.co.uk >> www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm >> G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 >> >> >> >> >> >> > > --0022150467ef70831a049ab342d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess so.=A0
http://wspr= net.org/olddb?mode=3Dhtml&band=3D2190&limit=3D50&findcall=3D&a= mp;findreporter=3D&sort=3Ddate=A0=A0 is more user friendly and nic= er =A0than the one accessible from the wspr= net.org front page.
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But the power is not 0.2 watts.=A0 I'm sending 33dBm, which comes= out as 2 Watts (or 1.995W based on their unrounded calc).=A0=A0 Which, fo= r once, is actually quite close to the truth.=A0 I reprogrammed the=A0PIC= to update the power=A0only this morning.
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On 25 January 2011 22:20, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@= gmail.com> wrote:
Andy this was what came out from the standard database report with th= e number of reports set to 500 and the timescale as "forever".= I think the 0.2 is the power in watts. Are you still using the old databa= e interface?

73s
Roger XBM

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On 25 Jan 2011, at 22:07, Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com> wrote:
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Didn't mean WSPR.exe - Freudian slip :-)
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On 25 January 2011 21:46, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapt= horn@gmail.com> wrote:
Just cut and pasted the filter= ed WSPR spots report Andy.=A0 I've changed to the loop antenna which= will account for some of the difference, but you are much stronger than= the last time I copied your 500kHz beacon.

73s
Roger G3XBM=20




On 25 January 2011 21:= 35, Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm only 4dB up in power.=A0=A0 So either its propagation which= seems unlikely over this short range,=A0 or your noise level is a lot low= er.=A0=A0
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On 25 January 2011 21:26, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapt= horn@gmail.com> wrote:
Andy,

Neve= r seen you so strong.


73s
Roger G3XBM

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