Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.71]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-85e84d46f20c16d; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:31:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8527D3800009D; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PjxaI-0007oh-1Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:30:38 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PjxaH-0007oY-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:30:37 +0000 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PjxaF-0004nQ-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:30:37 +0000 Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so5794431iwn.16 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xHtMYS16XoSm8PfR2tUca4TY7f8P1TKcv1mBELo+idI=; b=OblhSZE8rrJNaxnCpaslfDqS3TI8nevdp1Yhp5iIbIQjsBV1S5072G4tMz8xUzUgW/ oF0xYcyguQ+S9POLnWEQd+l3EgpiZoe0H328Lfve/BA+FYuS8N/A+RM73oYauWEfzm+8 RmdvLn5N35XbIwpxcQjdh82ocz57UVZA6yLW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V/WB6hXp1r1Y6iGjyRlzWMFYjr8DlK20+p0sGN406y6uVU7wa/MLSprxj4O4cBLJMV 2Eo+WvwPzyPvmjBWUp3Tew1h+eVJ5qa5C2OfLbCI7lu2N1JGAlZ3MXCfYhAsI5AlnMp7 4baXv1HSxWDkJ99khe3S27w4x91WcCYiRXvTY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.171.69 with SMTP id i5mr8179963icz.314.1296495028413; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.66.11 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003301cbc163$c542e610$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <85896.7619.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <003301cbc163$c542e610$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m003.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1474d46f20a6759 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal, Yes there has always been jamming, sometimes very effective and sometime= s not. But in a case like Egypt it is very easy to pull the plug on the internet in a matter of minutes, erecting a jamming transmitter and antennas takes a bit longer. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM, mal hamilton wro= te: > Warren > You are correct about the Internet being vunerable but you forgot to men= tion > Broadcast JAMMING which is a regular occurance when your information is= not > wanted. This renders the transmitted information useless. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave > > > John, Pete, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I'll keep it brief since we are getting further off-t= opic. > I have two thoughts on the end of the BBC World Service on Shortwave: > > 1) The reliance on the Internet for program distribution is worrisome. > One only need look at Egypt where the Internet is shut down, or China > where it is censored. > > 2) The BBC World Service gives the U.K. considerable stature in the > World, in other words the U.K. is a small country with a big voice and > international role. Elimination of the World Service will make the > U.K. just another small, non-descript country in the EU. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:20 AM, M0FMT wrote: >> Hi Warren >> >> My immediate response is that if you like it that much why not pay Engl= ish >> tax to help maintain it. >> >> However the BBC world service, the Government mouth-piece, is currently >> funded by direct taxation which is probable more equitable than the new > plan >> which is to fund it out of the compulsory so called Licence Fee, collec= ted >> under threat of imprisonment, which is really a tax on a tax i.e. paid= out >> of taxed income. >> >> This is the dark side of English culture. >> >> 73 es GL petefmt >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Warren Ziegler >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 5:15:48 >> Subject: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave >> >> Sad day... >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-respo= nse >> >> Guess I'll have to rely on the 198 longwave transmissions. >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > >