Return-Path: Received: from mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.5]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA061-85e84d3f40a7356; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:29:11 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DBC20380000B5; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PhqRC-000317-DU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:28:30 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PhqRB-00030x-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:28:29 +0000 Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PhqR8-0007Nb-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:28:29 +0000 Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so254110iwn.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:28:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c6zbiXr2BeWASfZWueuIs4d13OrWMJ2XNo7OiVbHQu4=; b=BiatO1QvaCEY03XQtrOmh3c8TptCMLPOshJXiXJVCl3UbSlaC09hVHKsSyXFRkh9of fvI2uon4Ugrn00DbVrkxQlBmI2vfFTPxtOTnITBjSlDvJLX74187sVuHIrygIHnJMcyT UPuTLtbT2wd1VTNRzl6dzUZ3ZOMyNkkGvHpKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LbG61lAlkuvbHsujFo7FHtezLA/cPh+LmS65zFrA76wzxLebwt/98rnzL6cPKMiFgI jSUPxlWQUGiDDIusMsJl/N427YIImoIpmppKKKw3rDOakHYB38GcRrZastwndlDWRsUH 9K8Bw1/enOJAv02TjbfUjRJ2SPjGjFDPzft1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.10 with SMTP id eq10mr7160313ibb.112.1295990905158; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.211 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:28:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <830F0804F1574EA8B4F36C4F30A5B0D4@JimPC> References: <830F0804F1574EA8B4F36C4F30A5B0D4@JimPC> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:28:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc4c688bf0b049ab2652d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40054d3f40a52730 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --90e6ba4fc4c688bf0b049ab2652d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mine is a model 1000-WA-MFN-30. A big black heavy thing aruond 250 x 300 long x 150mm high, but suspect its innards are much the same. Ironic really, I used to have an old Naval HF-only load made from 6 big carbon resistors that glowed dull red with 700W of 137kHz A current transformer added on the input going off to a test port turned it into a better power measurement tool than this Bird can manage. Sold it when the Bird became available. Wish I hadn't now. But at least the coupler is calibrateable (does that word need the 'e' ?) Andy www.g4jnt.com On 25 January 2011 21:14, James Moritz wrote: > Dear Andy, LF Group, > > The SNR for your beacon received here is up by 3-4dB, so in line with > expectations. > > > And talking of test loads. The 1kW 1GHz Bird attenuator increases its >> attenuation value as it gets warm. >> > > My dummy load behaves in the same way - it may be the same as you have, it > is a Bird Tenuline model 8327. So whatever its virtues, temperature > stability does not seem to be one of them! > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > --90e6ba4fc4c688bf0b049ab2652d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mine is a model 1000-WA-MFN-30.=A0 A big black heavy thing aruond 250= =A0x 300 long=A0x 150mm high, =A0but suspect its innards are much the same= .
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Ironic really, I used to have an old Naval HF-only load made from 6= big carbon resistors that glowed=A0dull red with 700W of 137kHz=A0=A0A cu= rrent transformer added on the input going off to=A0a test port turned it= into=A0a better power measurement tool than this Bird can manage.=A0=A0= Sold it when the Bird became available.=A0=A0 Wish I hadn't now.=A0= =A0=A0
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But at least the coupler is calibrateable (does that word need the &#= 39;e' ?)
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Andy
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On 25 January 2011 21:14, James Moritz <james.moritz= @btopenworld.com> wrote:
Dear Andy, LF Group,

Th= e SNR for your beacon received here is up by 3-4dB, so in line with expect= ations.


And talking of test loads. =A0= =A0The 1kW 1GHz Bird attenuator increases its
attenuation value as it= gets warm.

My dummy load behaves in the same way - it may be the sam= e as you have, it is a Bird Tenuline model 8327. So whatever its virtues,= temperature stability does not seem to be one of them!

Cheers, Jim= Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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