Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.97.134]) by air-da05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA051-85e74d3b5b5e43; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:34:06 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 680253800009D; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pgm13-0007ed-IJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:33:05 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pgm12-0007eU-QB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:33:04 +0000 Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com ([209.85.215.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pgm0z-0001LW-VV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:33:04 +0000 Received: by eyg5 with SMTP id 5so1428261eyg.16 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:33:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer :x-mimeole; bh=Ll1xFG22DhqmOAo51vz7RPHvneVbKnzOvuteSvfY650=; b=jgltV7lqpiXnyu8I2Nqj7OpctAlcROBgAv4JhAgjOr9bdEG+xOWcEhT4ZZpqJDyYUH ogQ0d7Ozl0pw1C5Knmw8d9YQWMq7J/HX9wZrJ2P/U4GT8Wambt3h/DP656i1G3Ouh2I+ Q9cFEMWbnaPL3/JUpMapO9oJKG4jQoox1YZb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=PvtebfBnuqV7+gU3oY+MwJhcY8KxW0c2NJGH2VarGQt2C5cPQh206Y1QUCreAEzXXM sJKX6+QAgHzYFW3vRoPNKTVf4DLcZQZzyllayyNzu3uT5jcZkfeT9ouNfuOLwuzLOHQL kIp6ufN8+V9aR39uJP/kX6+6VifV0pdeVNlrQ= Received: by 10.213.27.136 with SMTP id i8mr2921291ebc.11.1295735581171; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from PcMinto (ip5657a2f6.direct-adsl.nl [86.87.162.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x54sm8755516eeh.17.2011.01.22.14.33.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:33:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <763D952DC12F4735BE798B533FC0646A@PcMinto> From: Minto Witteveen To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:32:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0489_01CBBA8C.B2B73510" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d002.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61864d3b5b5d4d71 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 ------=_NextPart_000_0489_01CBBA8C.B2B73510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All =20 I just got a PM from Albert PA0A. It seems that members of the PA HAM club VRZA did receive a renewed li= cense for 500 KHz, so they are allowed to TX on 500 again. The VERON (of which I am a member, a membership I am re-evaluating!!!!= ) does not have a new license. Reasons until now officially unknown be= cause of non-response of VERON officials, but it seems that they did= not apply for a new license.=20 =20 Regards, Minto pa3bca From: Minto Witteveen=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 22:44 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN Hi Mal, =20 It seems that I am not the only one that has been kept in the dark. =20 There is still no official word that 500 is open to us again, but the= scuttlebutt is that the powers that be did approve our use of 500 KHz= from 1.1. 2011 to 01.04.2011 in a timely manner. However our represen= tatives (HAM clubs VERON and VRZA) have been asleep at the job. (e-mai= ls have been send to wrong addresses etc or whatever) So officially we cannot TX on 500 as the VERON and VRZA must hand out= the licenses.=20 Which they have not done yet - as far as I know. =20 Oh well, there seems to be some civil disobedience by fellow PA hams.= If there is enough activity the coming days I think I will join them. =20 Regards, and see you on 500 KHz soon. =20 Minto pa3bca From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 19:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN Minto You are being kept in the Dark, counted 7 PA stns tuning up and testin= g on 500 Khz de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Minto Witteveen=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN I am curious how and when they got a renewed license. I have heard nothing from my VERON "600m controller", and nobody I= know has either. Maybe Jan pa3abk knows more via the VRZA? (I heard from the potentia= lly good news through his earlier message here on the reflector). Regards, Minto pa3bca. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 17:20 To: rsgb=20 Subject: LF: PA 500 AGN Some acty on 500 again from PA0AM and PA0MER/PA3ECT on CW de Mal/g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0489_01CBBA8C.B2B73510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

H= i=20 All

 

I just got a PM from Albert=20 PA0A.

It seems that members of the PA= HAM=20 club VRZA did receive a renewed license for 500 KHz, so they are allow= ed to TX=20 on 500 again.

The VERON (of which I am a member= , a=20 membership I am re-evaluating!!!!) does not have a new license. Reason= s until=20 now officially unknown because of non-response of VERON officials, but= it seems=20 that they did not apply for a new license.

 

Regards,

Minto=20 pa3bca


Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 22:44
Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN

Hi=20 Mal,

 

It se= ems=20 that I am not the only one that has been kept in the dark.<= /SPAN>

 

There= is=20 still no official word that 500 is open to us again, but the scuttlebu= tt is that=20 the powers that be did approve our use of 500 KHz from 1.1. 2011 to 01= .04.2011=20 in a timely manner. However our representatives (HAM clubs VERON and= VRZA) have=20 been asleep at the job. (e-mails have been send to wrong addresses etc= or=20 whatever)

So=20 officially we cannot TX on 500 as the VERON and VRZA must hand out the= licenses.=20

Which= =20 they have not done yet - as far as I know.

 

Oh well,=20 there seems to be some civil disobedience by fellow PA hams. If there is= enough activity=20 the coming days I think I will join them.

 <= /o:p>

Regards, and= see you on 500 KHz soon.

 <= /o:p>

Minto pa3bca=


From: mal hamilton
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 19:33
Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN

Minto
You are being kept in the Dark, count= ed 7 PA stns=20 tuning up and testing on 500 Khz
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Minto Witteveen
Sent: Saturday, January 22,= 2011 4:47=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: PA 500 AGN

I am curious how and when they got a renewe= d=20 license.
I have heard nothing from my VERON "600m control= ler", and=20 nobody I know has either.
Maybe Jan pa3abk knows more via the VRZA? (I hea= rd from the=20 potentially good news through his earlier message here on the=20 reflector).
 
Regards,
Minto pa3bca.
 

From: mal hamilton=
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 17:20
To: rsgb
Subject: LF: PA 500 AGN

Some acty on 500 again from PA0AM= and=20 PA0MER/PA3ECT on CW
de Mal/g3kev
 
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