Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.201]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE082-5ebf4d2318c133a; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:55:29 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CD9B738000085; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 07:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pa6P8-00051B-OR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:54:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pa6P8-000512-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:54:22 +0000 Received: from mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa6P6-00043u-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:54:22 +0000 Received: from APOLLO1.ds.leeds.ac.uk (apollo1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.5.4]) by mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p04CsDsW028945 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:54:14 GMT Received: from HERMES8.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([fe80::39ce:23e:d0b5:7e24]) by APOLLO1.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.4]) with mapi; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:54:13 +0000 From: Chris Trayner To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:54:11 +0000 Thread-Topic: LF: LF "Mobile" ( was : "NM" on 136177 ) Thread-Index: AcusDnzy25Yc9VMVS9i3PrOk5uCsWw== Message-ID: <697F254D-C918-4809-A6E7-3F72D237F5A7@leeds.ac.uk> References: <5010F8F002AC4F598A01115AA882C5CD@White> <4D17D186.9010504@gmail.com> <002401cba55d$47d7fcf0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <1EDC8A62B7414B45AA7725E81BB5111F@White> <4D191F8C.8060209@toya.net.pl> <4D1927DC.4080103@toya.net.pl> <4D1929D0.1050308@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4D1BC000.5070507@toya.net.pl> <4D1C620E.6050404@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4D1C66F0.20102@freenet.de> <4D1CA675.5070706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4D6379EA-53C8-4E84-9547-83385565A8AE@numeo.fr> <4D230986.4000609@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4D230986.4000609@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: LF "Mobile" ( was : "NM" on 136177 ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60c94d2318bf4773 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Stefan, > Why don't you just disconnect the battery when the car is standing still= =20 > in the field? :-) Or let it go flat ;-) > Why the hell do i need a sensor that shows=20 > me if the door is open? If it is open i see it or hear it. Just useless= =20 > inventions by the automobile industry! Actually, I think they invented it for good economic reasons. I think it's= got to the point where it's cheaper to have two power wires plus two sign= al wires going from the dashboard to the back of the car, rather than the= traditional wiring loom for tail lights, brake lights, indicators, and ma= ybe rear screen heater, wiper and washer. I would guess the door sensors= (a) turn on the interior light and (b) maybe sound some warning if you dr= ive off with the door ajar. 73, Chris ----------------------- Dr Chris Trayner School of Electronic & Electrical Engineering, The University of Leeds, Leeds LS2 9JT, United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 34 32053 Fax: +44 113 34 32032